posted Mon, 03/12/2012 - 04:00
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Deca for lower back pain??
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For years I have been experiencing lower back pain. I have had Xrays, cat scans, seen chiropractors, you name it. The pain mainly come when I go running or play basketball.
I am looking to give deca a try to see if it solves the problem.
I know deca helps with joint pain, but Xrays don't show a joint problem. Sounds more muscular to me.
Has anyone experienced this?
I was thinking of running 250 of deca with 500 test e.
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I have a similar issue. I have herneated discs in my low back, L5 & S1. They are in the dead center of your body (tail bone). It absolutely sucks! When I get bad flare ups I unfortunetaly have to get anti inflammatory steroid epidurals. I simply cant move when I tweek it. I've spent weeks in bed from this. The only thing that really helps is stretching and strengthening my core. I am extra causious of particular movements. I do not bend over to reach for things, I squat. Drugs of any kind will only mask the issue. After years of dealing with this i've found the only thing that truly works is sensibly strengthening the abs, obliques, lumbar muscles. I stretch 2-3x daily and am overly aware! Good luck, I hope this helps!
Sorry you are going through all that man. Damn . I have basically done everything, everyone has suggested on the post lol. I have read a lot of good things about deca an that it helps with joints and ligaments. I trust the feedback on eroids so I will give deca a shot and work my core and stretch like crazy. Just to repair my body for a bit. No basketball or running is fuckn up my cardio . The bike at the gym gets boring lol. Thanks!
Its all good. I keep it in check now. I know what to do. And yes, deca is apparently good for collagen production and connective tissue repair. I'm still not certain how, don't know the exact science behind it, but i've had pain free deca workouts
Anonproblem is that for the most part once you stop the cycle the pain returns.. I have seen some anecdotal evidence for quicker healing times for guys running both test and deca however, I can't find any studies that are difinitive. I think that your best bet, both of you,is yoga and pilates.
Anonhave you tried any pilates movements?
I have not. Should I be looking into them?
Anonyes, pilates movements will strengthen your core and help support your back.. reduce issue caused by misalignment.. I would imagine that with your back issues you would have to pick and chose the exercises but I have seen pilates do some great things for people
Excellent. Thank you for that. Another great tip. I am already very very careful of movement and different positions I put my body in, especially with training. Between the shoulder and the back I have to limit my use of free weights and occupy a smith machine and cables for a lot of my workouts. But it's been well over a year since I've had a bad flare up. I keep my core very strong and again am extra careful. But incorporating new movements and exercises is always a good move. Thanks again grrrl
If you have one in your area and can afford it, look for an Iyengar yoga instructor with a certification level of Junior III or above and schedule private lessons. Don't take this as I'm telling you to do yoga, the keywords are around the word yoga. Anyone can claim to help you with yoga, but without the certification level and style I mentioned they are just that, anyone. I'm going to be deleting this message after you have time to read it, just putting it out there because it works. Write down, certified junior III or above, Iyengar, private.
Haha..not a problem Normal. I actually tried a heated yoga studio a few weeks ago. It was not an official Iyengar instructor, but it did a great job in stretching out my entire body. I will give it another shot and also try to find a certified instructor as you mentioned. Thanks!!
This is how you search if it is something you are interested in.
I'm putting a couple of ** in the middle so the link doesn't work directly and they won't be able to tell the last page you visited was eroids. Open a new window and put this in the address bar, delet the **:
https://secure.**iynaus.org/search
You simply put in your state, and minimum certification level. If there is no one in your state with that level you do what you can. I consider Junior III as the equivalent of someone that's ready to defend a PhD dissertation on how to use the body, there is no way in hell they have been teaching in the method for less than 20 years. Some got grandfathered in at a higher level when the certification system was created, as my instructor did but he will stop class and discuss one tiny muscle for 45 minutes because that's what he sees the group of students in front of him needs to understand. Bores the hell out of the average student but when I go to study there is just that much more attention paid toward what I need to correct, it is on me to listen, understand then apply when I get home.
This is a reason you may not find Iyengar instructors in gym's. Generally speaking people go to a gym for a quick work out and in some ways there is nothing wrong with that.
I would find the instructor, tell them you have a certain physical condition, might be interested in yoga, but mainly interested in having a healthy back. They are used to working with big dudes, but private lesson is the best way to start for your situation.
Thanks for the info brother. I will look into it tonight.
Difference is going to be experience and training. Like a personal trainer that has been doing it for over 30 years, vs a trainer that has been at it two years. You wouldn't want a chiropractor messing with your back that just got out of school yesterday from billy bob's schools of cracks, you want the wise motherfucker that has been doing it for over 30 years.
Nothing wrong with yoga bro i do it with my ole lady twice a week
I have tried orthotics but it did not help. Thanks for the feedback.
Have you ever thought that it could be your shoes maby you need orthatics
Deca will increase collagen production but it will only temporarily relieve your pain if at all if its a muscle problem deca will do nothing for you but vicodin will
AnonI like how you so casually suggest the use of pain killers.. I mean really, isn't what we are all trying to do here is to live a healthier lifestyle? I could be wrong but why else do we do what we do?
eryximachusTechnically, most opioid drugs that are non-toxic, at least the ones derived from the opium poppy as is vicodin. You can, in theory, spend your entire life on morphine and it will not affect your lifespan. Opioids are, in a way, sort of like hormones. You can of course take testosterone forever if you are a man, but stopping it might not be so fun.
It will cause debilitating constipation and severe withdrawal symptoms when you stop, but if you don't stop, no problem.
Now, I avoid narcotic drugs myself. I'm part of the minority that has a dysphoric rather than euphoric reaction to them. But there are people for whom the positives outweigh the negatives, i.e. the pain. I'm just not one of them. Yet.