posted Thu, 09/04/2014 - 09:20
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Clen issues
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Hello,
I didnt know in which forum to post this.
I tried clen once 3 weeks ago, started off at 40 mcg and highered by 20 a day until 120 and went no further than that.
9 days into the cycle i started to get sides and i couldnt take it, but i still continued for 2 more days and i couldnt sleep for 48 hours straight. I got massive anxiety attacks.
I discontinued it After day 11.
My issue is that i am having recurring small anxiety attacks until today and i want to know how long this will continue. I have had anxiety attacks before but not anything regular like now.
Thanks.
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I saw a doctor and i told him what i took and he knew all about it. They checked my heart valves and After a long evaluation, they determined that i was fine and i also feel fine.
Never will i ever touch clen again, i even advise everyone i know from taking that shit. Turns out i just suffered from a severe depression caused by the clen wich in turn gave me all those massive anxiety attacks.
Take clen With precaution, thanks!
I know of 2 well respected and knowledgeable sources and former sources that have said repeatedly that legit clen does not exist anymore and that anything you buy is most likely ephedrine or some other type of stimulant. Whether it is true or not I don't know but I can't remember ever seeing a test done on clen to confirm it's legitimacy.
Just something to keep in mind.
That may be the case in the US. I don't think it's so in Europe or Uk. We had a government run service for testing reccies and other drugs and most of the clen submitted was clen.
http://www.wedinos.org/db/samples/search
Change search to keyword, put clen in search box and have a browse through the results.
I have no problem knowing and believing the source where I got my clen is real, until then I will just keep thinking so. A test might be nice tho, maybe I will send a few tabs out...good to know man, I do thank you
If you do have it tested, please let us know what you find. Much appreciated.
Sopharma clen is real pharma grade clen. Other stuff is God knows what. Also 120micrograms is completely unnecessary if it is real.
Well I def know where to find that as well
Please post up a link to test results to back that up and I'm all over it
Clen is approved for human use in Bulgaria. The country where this pharmaceutical company is located. I'm not going to look up chemical testing results which people will probably call phony. Doubt it would be publicly available anyways.
Didn't know that. Thanks for sharing. I am going to check that out.
Tink22I recall this too. Love to know if true. I have Clen know. Shakes cramps migraines all there.
Ephedra and caffeine I have abused n never suffered these so idk.
I have never used clenbuterol, but I used a CEC (caffeine, ephedrine, cytomel) stack with noticable results, which were positive and great to see. But, the rebound effects from it seemed to put more body fat on me after i discontinued the product, while on the same cardio and lifting regimen. I definitely wont use it a second time. It makes cardio and diet harder after using it, to achieve the same results.
Not for the faint of heart,,, no pun intended, it's bad shit, and should only be used by seasoned vets....And most of them won't touch the shit either!
None taken brother,
Neither will i, anymore. It's not Worth it at all.
Will see the doctor soon.
It's way safer and easier to just do extra cardio to lose weight. Clen can be really dangerous. If you decide to take it again try splitting the doses up throughout the day. Taurine and lots of water will help with some of the sides.
I will never ever touch clen again in my life i even threw the shit out. Not going to sell it or give it away that fucking rat poison. Nobody deserves to feel that bad.
Thanks for the advice though, i did infact take taurin and i always drink shitloads of water
I threw mine out too. Made me feel like shit. Ephedrine is generally a safer option but it's faked a lot. Just stick with the good ole stair mill.
Amen to that brother.
Not going to touch ephedrine or anything like that anymore.
120mcgs of clen is for exp users and the types that can tolerate its bad sides!........... notch this one up to self learning curve bro.
You need to go to the Doctors and have your heart valve functions checked............. i could go on and tell you some real clen horror stories but i wont because its not what you want to hear at this moment.
Steroids is like eating candy when compared to the heart and thyroid nukes we call clen and T3
Hey Vike where your shake go brother. Telling my buddy to get on here and start using it and he said he couldn't find it so I looked and it's gone?
I removed everything bro..... pics and all!
Out with the old..... in with the new!!
LOL. Is your new relationship with the board going to be such that we can finally hire you for real as a consultant to review our prep cycles and such or will there still be a legitimate conflict of interest? Just hoping - I probably already know the answer but it doesn't hurt to ask . . . :):) I just have this feeling that you know more than Dave Palumbo in many respects . . . .
You just gave me something to think about there brother........ i never looked at it that way before you HAVE given me something to think about
P.S. dont tell dave that! he wont speak to me no more lmfao!
Its good to know "purists" like yourself actually do "read into" my stuff and get a feel from where my passion really lies :)...... but more importantly the Guillotine that controls me from letting too much loose in public.
Dang u took down my go to link lol.
Thats where the "Evolution" thing stakes its claim.
I think I stopped evolving past the cave man stage at least that's what my ole lady says lol
I should probably keep this comment to myself, but that's as high as I would go...120mcg. I really didn't have the terrible sides everyone gets, but it was working for me. I can handle high stims tho...always could. I only take that stuff for 2 weeks then quit. take that same time off(or more) and go back to it.
I think the problem is just as well with all these UGL's circulating our "market" these days where most of our products are coming from...too much inconsistency in dosing btwn brands and maybe within the same pack of that particular brand. Any time I try a new one, I actually lower my dose just to make sure I don't have problems. Other than that I don't mess with any thyroid meds, and NEVER will.
I don't care what anyone or everyone is doing or THINKING about doing...a very THOROUGH investigation is always needed...no matter the compound, clen or roids. I didn't start taking clen until I researched it very heavily and asked TONS of questions on here and within my lifting community here. Same with my very first run of test...I had the ducks in a row MONTHS prior. Its only as safe as you make it to be.
Perfect............. thats how it should be done bro +3 great post.
Thanks Vike. Like I said I am not advocating ANY use of compounds UNLESS!!! ;-)
Last year it was Nasser El Sonbaty and Greg Kovacs. This year so far Mike Matarazzo - real popular here in the States. All dead from heart attacks or heart failure. All in their 40's. Like no one is even paying attention. I guess the kids just think 40 is geriatric and death is expected.
LOL...... yeah it seems that way over in your neck of the woods bro, our over 40s categories are some of the best mature physiques the eye could view!
Tell you what is even stranger though..... i keep a close eye on some of our youngsters on here and have been watching a certain few for like 18mths/2yrs now and notice nothing spectacular in weight gain or mass increase even though they talk like they know it all.
You know through PM talk the calibre of youngster i have under my wing that i coach 24/7....... these guys have gained between 30 to 60lbs in the same time period!!..... what does that say to you?????
look out! the gains are coming
RIP.
Anyhow, my goal is really not to de at 40 and to be completely honest, i really underestimated clen.
I really skuld recommend anyone to stay the fuck away from it
LOL. I'm not suggesting it is. But, BBs have much greater problems with cardiac and renal disease than they do with the liver. The liver is all we seem to focus on, however, which is misplaced IMO.
From now on, i will do more regular checkups when it comes to my heart health. I agree With you on the point about the liver
Sorry for all my missspellings, damn autocorrect
My thoughts! WOW! That's a high does.... I imagine the shaking and jitters had to be horrible.... I wouldn't waste any time getting checked out...also.. Be careful.. Clen and T3 are not beginner compounds
The Shakes where not bad at all.
Why wouldnt u get checked out bro?
I will never touch the shit again
Sorry for the confusion... It was late.. what I was trying to say is I wouldn't waste anytime.. Get checked... Clen is a beta-2 agonist/antagonist and a bronchodilator, and can cause possible cardiac hypertrophy as clen also targets cardiac and smooth muscle fibres.
Already made an appointment, thank you.
Then i got very misinformed according to my researches. I sure as hell will go to the doctor and check it out.
Thank you brother.
Indeed it is