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Hey everyone --- TREN E

Where have you seen it shine the most? Recomp/Cut/Bulk

  1. Cycle length?
  2. Lowest effective dose?
  3. Mast vs no mast?
  4. Test mast tren ratio? 2:1:1, 2:2:1
  5. What is your favorite oral to pair with it, and at what dose?

Looking for best practices and different applications.
Appreciate any feedback Smile

RobertB80's picture

12-16 weeks
I run it 200ml every 3 days with test at 250 e3d.
Proviron 50mgs ed
Mast last 6 weeks
Dbol 40mgs Ed kickstart first 3weeks as use enthanate.
Found this to be my best cycle yet. Fast strength gains with Dbol. Test and tren kick in nicely once Dbol has done its job. Mast, prov and hgh take care of my conditioning, fat loss, vascularity, sex drive and mood. Cialis thrown in for cardio days ;)

20ramcummins's picture

What ratio of test to tren did u end up running? Results?

NWApatches's picture

Shines the most when I'm eating in deficit. 6-7 weeks into tren E and I'm feeling fucking wore. Definitely masteron. Always ran test higher. Anadrol

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JakeKO's picture

Whatever you decide, split up your weekly dose into multiple injections. 200 mg in one shot always gets me into trouble. 2 pins per week at 100–150 mg gives me a pretty smooth ride, with little to no sides

PaintDrinker's picture

I’ve always had great success with just test/mast. Never ran Tren, it sounds appealing but it’s just so toxic. I understand it’s necessary if you’re competing but you can get a very similar look with test/mast/var if you're lean. To answer the question my coach never puts guys above 300 tren in a pre-contest setting, a lot of guys think more drugs is better, but when your body is toxic, the look won’t be optimal. The sky is the limit with Masteron, push it up to 600-800

Badgoat1's picture

I can handle tren e for much longer periods of time than a but I can run anywhere between 4-600mg per week without too crazy of a side effect issue. Take an acid reducer daily and tums by the bed. Sweating while you sleep and sometimes trensomnia. For me it gets me really strong and works good as a cut I just don't see much bulking. On it. Usually run
250mg test e
400mg tren e and that's all I need

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fatsacksdaddy82's picture

Damn I need the tums right now, trenflux is a problem

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hogwild's picture

I've never ran my tren higher than my test.... always have ran it the opposite. Not saying either is right or wrong. Just wondering your experience running this ratio especially in the bed room. May try it for several weeks and see how I feel.

Badgoat1's picture

I've tried it all 3 ways High test, equal test, and low test.
High test I felt like absolute shit bloated, tired and the sides seemed multiplied
Equal test was far better but still bloating water retention, tired all the time.
Low test is best for me, great bedroom performance, great strength increases and I can actually see my abs and lean out. More vascular no trensomnia rarely get heartburn unless si eat something crazy close to bed. And I rarely need adex like .5mg every 2 weeks. I have always been a delayed ejaculator and very rarely finish since I was on Lexapro a few years ago so the only way I lnow.i need caber is if my bones starts to slip works out to .5 MG every 2-3 weeks.

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hogwild's picture

Shit..... thats me..... tired all the time... running 500 tren e 800 test e and 250 mast e rn..... got me thinking about dropping my test dose to 400 and seeing how I feel. Wonder how long before my actual test blood levels drop..

Jockstrap's picture

Whats your actual goal? The end game ideal size, shape?

bigred250's picture

Goal is to lean out and have the best cut/recomp I’ve had thus far. At the end of this year I’ll be focused on fertility so wanna use the tren sauce early in the year, then cruise all summer long til it’s baby making time. Not looking for any sides. I know w how powerful this stuff is it don’t take much to get the cherry on top affects. Hopefully that helps provide some context @Jockstrap

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Jockstrap's picture

Less fertility issues and awesome cut recomp with eq dhb and lower test. If you start sub 12% you will see weekly changes and very lil issues if any. Odd part for me is i really didnt feel the 'ON CYCLE' feel like some stacks provide. But the visual changes are amazing. Endurance recovery and general well being.
600 eq 400dhb and 300 test. Run bloods week five to see estrogen. Eq has mild ai effects but going too low and joints arent happy. Gives you a science based reality to set doses by

Badgoat above posted a nice enth run thats strong and fairly stable. Hgh helps me sleep and good for pct and axis balance/reboot.

hogwild's picture

These completely knock out the heart burn for me. Keep some on hand. Just 1 daily.

Ag4936cali's picture

No source talk. Jk. Ima try those out. Appreciate it. +1

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hogwild's picture

Lol ima blur out the source brand

George Rockwell's picture

Tren E for me
*Cycle length :12-18 weeks depending how I feel. I try to hit this cycle during winter bc tren sweats is the one side effect I can never rid myself of
*Lowest effective dose : I would not know. I dont get sides till I hit 800+ and have never went below 500
*mast VS no mast: I like throwing in mast with tren but only when cutting. Some like the smol AI effect but I don't aromatize easily so never looked into it.

Mast does rape my hairline faster than any other PED even while on minox/Ru58841/microneedle regimen. Winstrol runs a close 2nd for hairline destroyer, but all other things I've tried have been fine for me.

*Test mast tren ratio : 500/400/750. I never go above 400 mast anymore bc that makes my muscles extremely flat
*favorite oral to pair with it : during bulk is superdrol at 50 daily and during cut is anadrol at 50-75

I can't seem to bulk on tren anymore because it suppresses my appetite too much and only way around that for me is to use mk-677 to get appetite back. I use HGH regularly and that is not enough to increase my appetite. I'm sure it's due to liver issues and liver not bouncing back to full health as quickly as before. When I did bulk with it, I usually paired with super to get an extra dose of aggression to pair with tren.

hogwild's picture

Mast.... always, always run it. I like long cycles, especially when you feel it working... I probably run to long 15 to 20 weeks. I always bulk on tren... everyone is different though, diet, diet, diet. I love the way it puts pounds on me, beast mode. Play with your dose to find your lowest sweet spot. Good luck brother, keep us updated when you get on cycle.

Tradesman34's picture

I try and always use mast, definitely one of my favorite gear

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creatinehcl's picture

Recomp/Cut/Bulk
Hardness, strength, aggression, vascularity...all components are desirable for bulk and cut, so for me tren can be mixed with everything. It can also be used for bulking with other steroids/supplements that increase appetite because that is the only problem I see in using trenbolone for mass.
For cut, it is king, but caloric deficit and trenbolone = aggressive outbursts Otherwise, it is literally impossible to make me angry.

Cycle length? 10-12 weeks

Lowest effective dose?
I don't know what is the lowest dose that would be effective, but 200mg per week is quite enough for me.

Mast vs no mast?
Definitely with Masteron. All side effects are much milder with Masteron.

Test mast tren ratio? 2:1:1, 2:2:1
A milder version of the cycle would be 2:1:1 A stronger version would be 1:2:2 With higher doses of trenbolone, it helps me with side effects when testosterone is lower.

What is your favorite oral to pair with it, and at what dose?

I don't like orals in combination with a cycle that includes trenbolone.

bigred250's picture

this is great info, ty

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creatinehcl's picture

You're welcome.

SimonM84's picture

I’ve always compared Tren to having sex with a hot hooker that you know will give you an std but will satisfy all your pleasures.

Primo is the beautiful love of your life that will bare your children, cook for you and give you ever lasting joy.

That being said,

I’ve ran Tren multiple ways. What works best for me where I don’t become a possessive lunatic or a maniac from not sleeping….

Test e 250 mgs

Tren e 200

If you don’t have a wife and kids- single and no responsibilities other than your own survival…

Tren e 400

Test e 250 mgs

You can bulk on Tren but it’s very hard, Tren just shreds me so it’s kind of a poor bulker for me.

bigred250's picture

hahahah this is great - I like the responsibilities vs no responsibilities perspective.

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SimonM84's picture

I can also only run it 12 weeks, anything beyond you will feel a xenomorph growing within your rib cage

Jockstrap's picture

Nothing shiney about tren. Its a vampire.

Makwa's picture

Or a sexy hooker that gives you an STD.

Jockstrap's picture

What happened in vegas follows you forever. Haha