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Seeking a little help with my diet

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Hey guys, I’m starting to wonder if my diet isn’t up to par or if it’s just my body not happy with me for some other reason.

So long story short I’ve been cutting for about 4 weeks now, down 15lbs which I’m happy with. But, I struggle to lose the extra belly fat. I did lose and extreme amount of weight years ago which left me with loose skin( can see it left me with saggy man boobs) it’s a vicious cycle while cutting and bulking, at the end of every cut I have about the same amount of fat and skin covering my abs.

Throughout my cut and bulk I strictly eat Whole Foods and some healthy fats. Not a lot of processed foods unless on vacation.
Currently on my cut I’m eating around 2300 calories
260g+/- of protein
240g of carbs
55g of fats
I eat pretty much the same meals every day, so no huge fluctuation in my diet, drink minimum 1 gallon of water per day.
12,500-15k steps per day
Workout 7 days a week, 1.5 hours a day.
Lifting fairly heavy, but can’t do squats or deadlifts due to breaking my back 3 times now.

Currently I’m on cycle running the following
900mg Test E per week
300mg Tren Ace per week
50mg Anavar per day.

As you can see, my arms and shoulders lean out rather well. My back, quads and calves are also very vascular but the stomach and chest is just not up to my standards. I’ve worked very very hard to get to this point, but I want to finally lose what’s left of that fat. At my very leanest, the top 4 abs will show but not the rest, at 228lbs my DEXA scan showed I think 9.1% BF and my InBody showed 9.3%. Both seemed off quite a bit to me, but I don’t really care about numbers, just how I look at this point. Any tips are greatly appreciated ladies and gentlemen!

TeaBody's picture

4 weeks in and down 15lbs?? Damn.... I think you are being a little hard on yourself. I'm sure in another 8-12 weeks you will easily be where you want. I think you look solid bro, no homo.

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Killeranatomy's picture

I would do fasted cardio and cut carbs.

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Jockstrap's picture

Cutting carbs on tren will flatten him out and looking like he never lifted weights

TrainElite's picture

It's just diet man, you just gotta dig deep and diet down to say true 8-9% Dexa bodyfat. But ya, if your scans aren't helpful then just stick with the scale and the mirror. At that point you should be down to burning through the lower abs fat, well into your lower back fat, and if you keep pushing past that you'll head into the glutes which is often the last place to burn off.

A true hardcore cut deep into single digits bodyfat% can be humbling. First 2/3 of the cut you're just getting smaller and flatter. But once you crack into single digits then everything gets really good, REALLY GOOD... Then you get to see what you're really working with, you're true Lean Body Mass and the leaner you get in your cut the better your gains will be in the next growing phase.

Your gear looks fine for a cut. You should add a fat loss stack in though to get things moving much faster. Clen, T3, Slu-pp-332, Methylene Blue + Yohimbine/rauwolscine once your close to 8% BF. Also running GH year around will help you stay leaner. 45mins on the StepMill(StairMaster) 2x ED will speed things up and improve overall conditioning. Don't take this the wrong way but you can't even see abs at all in your pic, theres no way you're anywhere near single digits bodyfat% regardless of what any scan says. Hopefully you have better pics that show otherwise but based off these I have you 15-20% BF. And I know that's exactly what you're talking about here also. I know it's easy to get offended talking about bodyfat % but I'm just talking numbers here. No offense intended.

Just dig deep, diet harder, ramp the fat burners up. Double up on the cardio. And just keep going bro until you get there. You can do it. Just finished up my cut a month or so ago, White Fish like Cod/Talapia is a game changer for a deep cut, thins the skin, least amount of collagen in a protein. Talapia, Rice, Veggies, Water. Absolutely shredded/peeled to the bone in no time. Basically what you're looking for here is pretty much a true contest prep(minus the last 2 weeks). I'd personally bring your fats closer to zero so you can increase the carbs instead, you'll need those carbs, but that's me.

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MKen3349's picture

This is exactly what I needed! But yes around the 15-20% body fat now, was just stating at my leanest that’s what scans had shown, but with crappy ab reveal I had my doubts.

TrainElite's picture

Clen is definitely your friend on a cut. Same with daily fasted cardio. Enjoy the ride man. Everybody should do a deep cut at least once a year. It primes your body to get ready to grow like crazy in the next rebound/bulk. That's where you make freaky progress.

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Petecastiglione's picture

Fuck the scans, even the scale to a degree. Mirror is your tool

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Pandateston's picture

Word

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Milfpounder's picture

That mirror can become your worst enemy also hahaha.

Pandateston's picture

That also a true fact

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Aggieguy's picture

That mirror can sometimes molest you as well

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russisua's picture

I struggle with this as well. I have an area around my lower back that just is stubborn and when I was overweight stretched the skin. I 100% want to share with you what I did and do. If it sounds like you want to try thats awesome, or cherry pick too. Its all good.

First off, the lower 2 photos are still double digits on body fat. Of course its being genralized, but the rib cage is visible front and sides very much so in sub 10%. Thats ok tho. Many times we think we have gone far enough but just havent. You have to keep going. And you could be watery but its hard to tell. Ive looked like shit before bed, like a swollen frog. Slept great, woke up pissed like a racing horse, and Im lean and dry.

Fasted cardio, preferably early in the morning, about 2 to 3 hours before you weight train. Minimum 3 times a week 20-30 mins a session with moderate heart rate.

Sauna daily if possible. Calms CNS, keeps water off, burns a little bit of fat.

Standing abb exercises, like boil makers (elbows to knees, hands behind head) Hoola hooping( not a joke) The idea is train abbs but keep them small and the waist from bulging with larger muscles. More resitance, more muscles, just need definition for abbs.

Maybe try Clen or an ECA stack if your healthy for it. Those work well and fast and synergistic with diet and cardio.

Make a fokd journal and try to discover the ones that make you bloatey. Certain foods like brown rice or oats, can bother peoples guts. Bloated guts is bad for cuts.

Keep cortisol lowww. Try to sleep as well and routine as possible, and stay chill.

Thats the stuff that works for me. Hope maybe some of it might for you.

Milfpounder's picture

I'm 100% getting a hoola hoop and uploading a video of me hopping the hula

Petecastiglione's picture

Idk why people sleep on the ECA stack. I can actually tolerate it, Clen I cannot

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frofrank's picture

Do you do the full stack? I’ve just been doing 50mg bronkaid for my fasted cardio as I’m just not a huge fan of caffeine and figured the aspirin only does so much.

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TrainElite's picture

The aspirin actually doubles the increase in energy expenditure compared to ephedrine alone. But at the same time you don't wanna be taking even a baby aspirin on a regular basis long term as it eats away at your stomach lining. Love me some Bronkaid.

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russisua's picture

Theres been quite a bit of info showing the aspirin is not needed really. Just around 200 to 300 mg of Caffiene, 25 to 50 mg of Ephedrine. I do the aspirin tho out of just sheer caution and feel good. Lets me not cycle fear into a clot when I get a weird cramp. Usually 2 doses a day is good, morning and after lunch.

Petecastiglione's picture

@frofrank exactly what @russisua just said is verbatim what I would’ve lol.
I do the full stack yes, twice a day. This isn’t something to consecutively run for long intervals. I usually have my clients do no more than 3-4 weeks at a time. I feel clen is the most horrible, unnecessary drug in the BB world. It is absolutely criminal it’s as popular as it is. I won’t tell anyone not to take it, I think ppl should do whatever the fuck they want, so if you like it cool. But I despise the compound. I feel it’s one of the worst things a bodybuilder on gear could take, body is under enough strain. That’s why bodybuilders/powerlifters or anyone who recreationally takes gear should NOT do coke or any “party drug”, it puts you over the deep end. We already mostly weigh more than we should, n let’s face it anabolics do stress out the body. We need to stay clean in other areas for longevity. I don’t think any of us should take part in heavy and/or regular alcohol consumption either. Keep it on occasion, only a few, or just not every week at the very least, please y’all.

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russisua's picture

Cannabis is really the safest option. I use RSO. So Im not burning my lungs up. RSO last around 8 hours so its 1 capsule and you are good to go. Helps suppress allot of Tren sides too Im findinng out lol

press1's picture

A lot of the guy's on here just seem to use Reta when wanting to shift some bodyfat quickly.

MKen3349's picture

I’ve definitely been contemplating joining the club and trying Reta out. The thought of losing muscle is my biggest concern. Definitely would like to get some feedback from some of the guys running it. Maybe an InBody Scan at the start and end of a Reta cycle to see what kinda muscle loss they’ve experienced, if any. Personally, if I end up going that route I will track those numbers to try and help others out.

Jockstrap's picture

Need more chest muscle to pop veins and separation

MKen3349's picture

Working hard on the chest, obviously no muscle grows fast but it’s always the ones you want to grow fast that take the longest it seems lol one day at a time!

Jockstrap's picture

Yessir! Your arms and delts are jacked. We all got spots to bring up.

Milfpounder's picture

You might need to add some rest days and refeeds in there buddy. From what you described you are taxing the shit out of yourself. You gotta let your body know that you're not trying to kill it.

It's very hard to convince yourself on a cut that eating MORE will help you lose more body fat, but it is important to add a refeed in once a week where you're in a surplus for 24 hrs. It signals to your body that the famine is over and allows a reset.

Also lifting 7 days a week will likely yield an injury. Need rest days.

Also hgh is a hell of a thing for knocking off body fat.

Pandateston's picture

100% bro, couldn’t agree more with Milfyy . That’s exactly how you avoid metabolic slowdown and plateaus.

People underestimate how fast the body adapts … if you just keep pushing harder with no breaks, eventually it pushes back. Strategic refeeds + rest days go a long way for keeping performance up and fat loss moving.

Hard part is trusting the process when you’re deep in a cut, but it makes a difference for sure.

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Petecastiglione's picture

Agree with Milfy 100%

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Milfpounder's picture

Why fuck yourself when there's so many eligible dudes around here?

Petecastiglione's picture

I’d fuck

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Milfpounder's picture

Just chillin on eroids at 3am tryna fuck hahaha

MKen3349's picture

Thanks for the input! Unfortunately I’m doing the fitness challenge 75 Hard right now and only 11 days in lol 5th year in a row my wife and I have done it. I will try to have “active” rest days and maybe skip working out and just do some slow cardio.

TrainElite's picture

Carb Cycling is the G.O.A.T. Off Season or Prep. That's exactly how you grow and stay lean right there.

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MKen3349's picture

Definitely appreciate the information! I’ll make some small adjustments and see if I can make my body a little happier with me.

MKen3349's picture

I do also have a huge scar across my stomach which feels like it healed the skin to the muscle! Definitely could be a factor in not allowing the skin to be moved around from gaining muscle etc or could have zero effect! It is from the scar down that I usually can’t see my abs