Thinking about my next cycle, cycle #2
I'm already thinking of my next cycle! Just finished the first one. It was mild but effective, and I quite honestly enjoyed the hell out of it.
I like measuring, figuring, working, seeing the results, making little tweaks here and there etc... I don't want to do anything too crazy too quickly.
I think I want to try masteron. Does that make you lose your hair? I'm already thinning, and I don't think PEDs help. But I'd rather be bald and in shape, than bald and fat. Mind you, I don't just blinding start dosing myself with whatever joe schmo suggests. I'll do some research....
I've been entertaining tren though - and I mean a SMALL amount. Like 25mg/wk, even less, would that be effective? Tren A I suppose, but I'd really like hex tren (another subject though, I know this is rare, and maybe it's not even real anymore??). I do enjoy doing cardio, and I already have a chronic respiratory illness. So maybe this isn't a good idea?
I'm just wanting to cut, trim, cut.... I'm fat, so that's what I'm working on, but I also like to build some muscle too. I was thinking anavar at 40-50mg/day for 8 weeks.
Cardarine is another I've been considering. Any other ideas or suggestions?
I like nandrolone too, and test of course. I know nandrolone is known more for bulking, but perhaps first have nandrolone, second reduce nandrolone and add anavar.
Anyway, sample cycle posted. Please let me know your thoughts and opinions. I don't post AI nor caber, but I will have and will take caber at roughly 1/1000 of the dosage of nandrolone (example, 250 mg/wk nandrolone; .25 mg/wk caber). That's been a decent rule of thumb I've seen.
| Week | mg Test C/wk | mg NPP/wk | mg Anavar/day |
|---|---|---|---|
| Week 1 | 175 | 125 | 0 |
| Week 2 | 300 | 250 | 0 |
| Week 3-8 | 400 | 300 | 0 |
| Week 9 | 300 | 125 | 0 |
| Week 10-17 | 175-200 | 100 | 40 |
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RustyhookerAll gear...no effort? Simple test only.....
I work out now instead of drinking. The effort I used to put into drinking is going to the gym.
Lol I feel there's plenty of effort. Gym time is around 1.5-2 hours 6-7x a week. I take a rest day occasionally.
RustyhookerGear only aids recovery. Jumping into a 6th or 7th level cycle on cycle 2 suggests the same errors others attempt.
I dont buy into overtraining at all....but no rest chews up the cns and that stops many natural growth factors.
Perfect the test cycle. Just adjusting macros and bloods can add great gains. Sounds goofy but someday you will hit your ceiling and wish for those old days when like me...300mg added 18lbs and kept 15.
You do have more experience than me, which is why I posted - to see feedback. T does help me feel better and energized. I do sporadically take days off, but probably average over 6 days per week on average.
Thanks for your feedback. Working on perfecting the diet and bloods. I'm not necessarily in a crazy rush to start on the next one. Just cruising now, and losing fat still pretty well. I just feel good overall.
My two cents here is ramping long ester test is a little silly. Just stick with one dosage, preferably 400-600mg range. Lower is fine too but at around 150mg (ish) your basically replacing your own body's testosterone. Tapering down however is a good idea and helps with recovery in my experience.
If you're fat like you say I would just stick to test right now just to give your body/metabolism a little bit of help as well as mood and aggression in the gym. Anavar won't make you suddenly skinny and I would drop it. NPP should be dropped until you're in better shape.
Goal for you right now is to get into the 12-18% bf range by getting your diet right, being consistent in the gym and putting in some good ol' fashioned hard work!
Thank you for your input. Yes, I'm not in a big rush for another cycle. Just going to cruise on T for a bit. Maybe tick it up to 200mg-250mg/wk is all. NPP is more for therapeutic effects. I like that one quite a lot actually.
I'm turning my diet, and most importantly my bf. I was a bit under 25% last weigh in - I got better results in half the time with PEDs. The hard work is paying off! We'll revisit this when I drop another 5%.
2nd cycle same as the first. Why change if you got results from the first.
Good point. Maybe I'll optimize my diet even more.
Do you track your macros/calories?
I track my protein, but I'm not getting enough according to some sources.... It hear numbers everywhere. I keep it around 1.4 g/kg bodyweight. Mostly vegetarian, unless I eat out. I need to actually log my food, but I'm pretty sure I'm in a deficit. I don't eat a lot of food. I'm fat I used to drink a lot.
Just pissing in the wind if you are not tracking all macros and calories.
You're right friend. It's fine to start getting more serious!
I would start there. If you're not actually tracking your food then you're guessing. I'm not sure about the conversion to kilos but I eat 1g/pound so roughly 250g/protein a day. If you're vegetarian, you need to supplement the amino acid leucine. All protein are a collection of amino acids and leucine is the amino acid that is responsible for triggering muscle protein synthesis. Whey protein has the highest value of leucine per gram, if you're not consuming animal proteins, just make sure you're getting all the essential amino acids, and if you want to build/maintain muscle mass, then make sure that amino profile includes leucine.
2.2lbs in one kilo. To have your same rate, I'd need 2.2 g protein per kg.
Supplement: whey is my main source of supplemental protein. Usually 2 - 3 scoops a day (60-90g), 4 to 6 eggs (24-36g), and 20-30g collagen (I don't think this one is vegetarian, nor is the amino profile the best) --> 104-156g protein daily through supplements. I also eat at least another 50g from cottage cheese (I love cottage cheese). I eat some other food as well.
Diet is one thing I do need to work on though. I am in a deficit most of the time, and usually don't eat much food until the evening.... Not great I know, but I usually drink a couple of protein shakes throughout the day, then munch on some nuts or some veggies for dinner.
Diet is everything, not what compounds you run.
That is so true. I guess we want an easy solution, just take this and get the results. I have my compounds, my gym time. Until summer, I'm going to eat very well and clean. Thanks for the reminder and advice