-2 My 1st Ever Cycle and Self-Injection
I have Test E 250 20x, Test P 100 20x and Test C 250 20x
+ Oxymetholone 50mg and Stanozolol 10mg
Blood work was performed twice and doc will start TRT come January. (have my PCT And Nova ready too)
You guys did not like my oral only cycle but my reasoning was to ease my body into this world. So after my blood work and doc appts (super important) I started taking Oxymetholone 50mg (once daily) and Stanozolol 10mg (10 minutes pre-workout).
Side Effects from Oxymetholone and Stanozolol - joints feel "older" and more "fragile" but that's it though. Keeping doses low.
I read a great post from TRTblastcruise about running a 1st cycle, so of all three types of Test now in my possession, starting with Test E 250 2x weekly
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Monday morning - Thursday night)
Injecting myself was quite tricky. I am paranoid of air bubbles and need to get that part of the process down. I have individual ampules and used two needles : 18g for drawing and 26g for injecting. The drawing part was also tricky, as well as the swapping needles and "clearing the barrel" part. I probably wasted 50mg just trying to get these things squared away.
YouTube videos were helpful but it was a nurse who had the best advice on individual ampule drawing.
The injection process was absolutely painless, as I followed meticulously the advice of people here. It was all in my head.
Don"t know what a "pump" feels like yet, so we gonna post in a week with observations.
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Lkl0623What else does he sell? Supplements and shit? Everyone has a supp brand now lol it's crazy.. I remember back in the day when it was just BSN, Muscletech, Animal, ON, etc. Now it's like every bodybuilder, strongman, YouTuber and their mama has a supp line lol it's wild..
Exactly what I was thinking.
He's part of a company called Renaissance periodization. They have a training app and a diet app. No supplements I see in their site. But they do offer one on one coaching, merch, books and workout accessories.
Lkl0623Lacie I really wish you the best on your journey bro, I just hope you do your due diligence in researching and make the healthiest decision for you. I know it seems counterintuitive that sticking a needle in your ass is healthier than taking a pill but it is when you're comparing testosterone and these 17-AA compounds. It's easy to make a mountain out of a mole hill when you're first getting into it because there's so much information out there and then there's abundant different hormones, peptides, sarms, etc. Testosterone is all you need brother - a bottle of enanthate or Sustanon will do you plenty of justice and most importantly, it's your healthiest option hands down. It gives you an idea of how your body is going to respond, you'll see what, if any, sides you'll have, etc. I wouldn't mess with anything else. Just some test and some PCT, that's all you need. I promise we're not telling you wrong. I know Dr. Mike is big on YouTube and I'm not taking anything from him, but I know that running orals for only a few weeks is just going to suppress the system and there will be virtually zero benefit. Like I said you might go backwards. Best to start with a few hundred mg of testosterone bro. I hope it all works out for you. God bless
Many thanks @Lkl0623 just starting my ramp up on Test E, and dialing in the food cravings. Wow, legit, think my appetite has increased.
My only (and major) resistance to sticking a needle in my body was that I am injecting a foreign substance from a very reputable source BUT THIS IS MY BODY. I've yet to get my script for TRT. Just wanted to be super cautious at first but now, yes the whole liver problems and blood thickening and LDL stuff, totally get it why shots are the way to go.
Yes, got the PCT already on hand, but I do have a question about "peptides". What are those?
Lkl0623I'll tell you what I think personally about the oral only short term crap bro.. I think you might put on a little muscle, suppress the shit out of your HPTA and even might end up going backwards. You're going to increase your hormone levels and be more anabolic for 3 weeks and give it just enough time to shut your body down. I might be dead ass wrong but I don't to by YouTubers, just because someone has a degree or YouTube account doesn't necessarily mean all their advice is gold or that it's a great idea. Then again I might be completely wrong brother. Who knows. Tell ol' Mike I said hi
Damn...
It does buddy, so does the buccal route.
anvilIt does but isn't nearly as effective as everyone hopes - and this is stuff designed for it and it hardly works
Sublingual drug delivery is capable of achieving high bioavailability by avoiding first-pass liver extraction and enzymatic degradation in the gastrointestinal tract, as well as achieving rapid onset of effect. Thus, this route of administration can offer attractive therapeutic advantages for certain drugs as a convenient substitute for parenteral administration and has been applied successfully to a number of therapeutic conditions, especially urgent cardiovascular conditions and acute severe pain control. However, due to inherent limitations such as small sublingual mucosa area for absorption, primarily passive mechanism of transport, short residence time, and potential local irritation, a relatively small number of sublingual products have been successfully developed to date. In this Review, key concepts and technologies for potential improvement of sublingual drug delivery are reviewed. The optimal application of these concepts and technologies, together with clinical need for non-parenteral delivery, will hopefully broaden the development of sublingual drug delivery in the future.
Lkl0623Since it avoids the digestive tract and enters the bloodstream directly it seems like bioavailability would increase
Lkl0623It's absorbed via mucous membranes and avoids the liver at least partially for sure, but I wonder if it reduces the bioavailability of the drug? Or increases bioavailability since the liver is avoided?
I forget who put it on here now, but increases the drugs bioavailability by 23/24%
Sure, there are certain Labs tabs that dissolve and break down much easier than others - one of my DBol tabs dissolves very rapidly under the tongue where as another version takes quite a while and relies on a lot of spit being present for it to work well. Ultimately whatever way you take them or whether you do the injectable orals they all damage you as much as each other - there is no get out of Jail free card.
anvilI can help you with the spit buddy
You are gonna start making Stokes and SoS jealous talking to me like this matey!!
anvilThey will understand my guy!
Lkl0623Gotta pay to play lol
Or as Staind say the 'Price you pay to play the game' ....
Lkl0623I'm waiting for someone to comment and ask about Dbol suppositories now
We have had numerous posts from people asking if you stick AAS tabs up your arse whether they are more effective or not LMAO - @Drexyl tried it and rates the anal route but currently he has bad piles so again, maybe there's a price to pay.
Bro, it’s no joke… lol
Ohh man I cannot believe you've put this one up - this is way worse than the 5" erect penis pictures LMAO
Thats proper fresh arse blood too.
Ha! Stick to the metric system buddy
Lkl0623Tell em that's what happens when you take winny and anadrol pre workout, sublingually lmao
Lmao!!
Lkl0623You must've done time in Alabama
They come and go lol
Lkl0623The thing is that in Alabama, if you're a coward and submissive you're almost guaranteed to get raped; not just raped but probably gang raped by a group and openly in front of everyone on the tier/zone. Next door in Mississippi, any homo activity whatsoever is punishable by alienation by the other convicts, a guaranteed beating into a puddle of blood and shit, possibly even death (I watched a queer get flayed like a cattle corpse in Walnut Grove back in the day, running laps around the zone screaming like a bitch and looking like a human blood sprinkler). But keep going west over to Louisiana and (from what I understand) it's homo heaven all over again. That doesn't have shit to do with anything we're talking about but your toilet paper triggered me.
Louisiana huh??? Angola... surrounded by swamp.... legendary stories. A buddy did some time there. He's never been the same
Lkl0623The warden for Angola was a gentleman named Burl Cain. He's now the commissioner for all of Mississippi Department of Corrections and has really cleaned up the system there. They have a boxing team, bull riding, weights at the regional facilities, tobacco on canteen. And he doesn't tolerate the gang/organization shit which I respect. I personally hate gangs and always walked alone regardless of the consequences. I've been robbed and beaten unconscious, stabbed, etc. but I maintained my dignity and took pride in knowing that I didn't count on the next scared shitless kid with face tats to "ride with me". I did 8 years so eventually I worked my way up to being respected by all organizations - well the white ones despised me because I was one of few "white boys" that wasn't "scary" but I didn't get in debt, didn't disrespect my peers, didn't get high. I just worked out and kept to myself. Gambled a lot but only if I could afford it. Gotta pass the time somehow.
Damn 8 years is 8 years man. It's no secret that I've openly talked about friends and family that have done hard time. In fact one dude was released a year ago....but this is the kicker, he went in back in 96.
And yeah I hear Angola has changed. I was just referring to those old days lol.
Bet u got some stories and have seen alot
Lkl0623I was in Parchman a over a decade ago doing time in 29 "Castle Gray Skull." There was an old black man doing life for a pound of marijuana he got caught with in the 70s. He was one of the most respectable and intelligent people I've ever been blessed to meet. Some of the best men I've ever met were sentenced to die in prison. I was also locked up with a guy that broke a whisky bottle over a man's head outside a bar; the man he struck with the bottle died in the hospital a couple of days later. The guy that committed the murder was a habitual offender and known ranking local gang member - he was offered a plea for the reduced charge of manslaughter and received only 3 years. At the time he was sentenced manslaughter was considered non-violent in Mississippi, so he received a parole date and made parole after only 9 months. The system is fucked and the politicians are the real criminals.
That’s a hell of a memory to bring back bro, hopefully all that is behind you now…
Lkl0623Well I used to be a real piece of shit, but prison was a blessing overall and I learned more about character and respect than I probably would've if it hadn't happened. Not to mention I probably would've died in the streets. Now I'm all about love and positive energy. I indulge in sharing "war stories" from my prison days but it's just a vice. My other vices include coffee and cigs. I hope I didn't offend anyone but I figured it was appropriate since most of us around here eat steel and shit nails anyway, right? It looks like you're eating extra steel and shitting railroad stakes son
Much respect to you buddy, real men act proper and I can already tell you’re a real one. Man, same here with the coffee and cigs, getting tired of the cigs though, it’s a brutal vice.
Looks like the rammed ya pretty good man! Next time GET OUT THE WAY!! LOL
I shucked when I should’ve jived…
Hahaha. You knew It was coming...I had to say something. That ain't right
Sooner or later I’ll get a new asshole. It’ll be fine for months, then all of a sudden, this!
Damn! You know the crazy part, the deeper inside the less nerves. Still gotta hurt I'd imagine. It's as if you're having a monthly cycle kinda. That's crazy man.
Lkl0623In British English, "piles" refers to hemorrhoids—swollen veins in or around the rectum and anus that can cause discomfort, itching, pain, or bleeding. The term is commonly used in everyday language in the UK to describe this condition.
Had to do my due diligence.
Lkl0623If I shoved one of these PA orals up my ass it would take a month to dissolve lmao.. they're harder than fucking rocks. I might shove one in a hookers ass for shits and grins though
lol, they really are. They’re potent though
Running low dose test would’ve been easing your body into it.
Why would you wait to hit the weights? Winny as a pre workout? That Adrol would be a great pre workout but I wouldn’t add something like that in until you figure out how your body responds to test. Seems like you jumped the gun on this.
I was advised to take stanozolol sublingually prior to a work out. Guess oxymetholone can also be a pre? hmm
Lkl0623If you're not trolling, bro just go do your research. Everything you're saying is nothing I could even imagine a retarded person giving you for advice. Either your fucking with us or someone is fucking with you.
Anadrol 50 and Winstrol on a 1st cycle
Sometimes I don't know why we bother giving advice.
Combined, all of us sit and spend hours telling you how to do things correctly and yet you ignore us anyway. Then you will be back in here pissing and moaning in a weeks time because you feel weird and all over the place mentally and things are going wrong.
Its only advice if you listen.. lol.
Eriods is like my council.. get the feedback and inputs I need before making stupid decision.
Actually pretty impressive. Usually when people want to do an oral only cycle it’s like dbol or anavar. Stupid but relatively innocuous otherwise. Drol + winny as a first oral only cycle? Talk about jumping in balls deep vs dipping the toe lol.
Yup, I wanted to test two orals that have too much bro science following them. I will get oxandrolone when my source has it available, which was my original preference over the stanozolol. I will cut after I find which stacks work with my body best. So now, yeah, it's an "experimental" phase.
What did your bloodwork look like doing just those two orals?