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How much test with NPP

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Hey everyone, I'm gonna start a cycle with TEST C, NPP and I was wondering what the lowest effective dose of test C would be if I do 100 or 200 of NPP EOD.

Pandateston's picture

Deca base or test base? That’s the first question.

“Lowest effective dose” depends on a lot more than just the compounds. On paper, some studies point around 300mg/week of test as a minimum to see solid anabolic effects… but real life doesn’t work that clean.

You gotta factor:
your baseline (natural test levels)
how long you’ve been training/eating right
prior gear use (androgen receptor sensitivity)
how you handle estrogen (high aromatizer or not)
side effect tolerance

That’s why your question is a bit too broad to give a “perfect” answer like my bros said.

You’ll see everything:
guys running 1g test + 300 NPP
others doing 300 test + 600–750 NPP
some prefer 1:1 ratio

No one-size-fits-all here.

If you’re trying to stay “low”, a lot of guys do well with test lower and NPP higher(not me, for me personally test is king), but since nandrolone does a lot of the anabolic work with less androgenic load… but again, depends how you personally feel on it (libido, mood, prolactin, etc).

Truth is, this game is a lot of trial, error, and adjustments. You can follow someone’s “perfect protocol” and still respond completely different.

No guarantees in this game … just data, experience, and dialing yourself in over time.

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fred1's picture

If you mention your goals then everyone will be able to give better dose advice, like some people take npp for joint pain.

thedude5833's picture

Well I'd like to put some muscle on and lose some fat but I chose NPP because how it is with joint pain. I don't want to get huge just a bit bigger and stronger.

press1's picture

This post is so unclear about what you are asking - Do you mean you are going to inject 100mg or 200mg every other day of NPP, OR do you mean per week?

Why would you want to run the lowest effective dose, don't you want to run a dose of Test that will gain you a good amount of muscle for all the injecting you will be doing?

thedude5833's picture

Sorry I wrote that kind of fast, and yes, injecting 100 or 200 NPP EOD. And I agree with you but I'm just wondering where the line is, don't want to take what I don't need.

press1's picture

So you are either looking at 350mg/wk or 700mg/wk of NPP - I would run 500mg of Test E and 350mg of NPP.

thedude5833's picture

Perfect, that's doable. I just get so much contradictory info about this but what you suggested seems to be norm. I appreciate the info brother.

press1's picture

It's because its all down to how you like to feel on a cycle and if you like the feeling of a good amount of Testosterone in you or not. It use to be decades ago that people jumped on Steroid cycles to get big and strong - and to do that you ALWAYS ran 500 to 600mg per week of Testosterone being it is the main base compound for generating muscle mass - but many like to make it complicated these days and suggest 250 to 300mg to people which throws people off track and question what they are doing.

Jockstrap's picture

You have ai and da? Prior use of nor?

thedude5833's picture

Yea I have aromasin, not sure what da is.

Milfpounder's picture

District attorney.

Or dopamine agonist I can't remember which one.

Eg: cabergoline