Chinese HGH vs. American Brands (big Pharma )
Other than 90/10 price difference ratio, both are identical. Western big pharma corporations use exactly the same production procedure (recombinant DNA technology) and equipment as Chinese labs. Chinese laws regarding GMP and safety of medicine related products are stricter than those in the west.
The identification, purification and later synthesis of growth hormone was first accomplished by a Chinese pioneer Choh Hao Li. Nowadays almost everything used in the west is made in China (or Asia at least) – both the high quality products as well as the low quality copies.
Human growth hormone (somatropin) is a large and fragile, 191 amino acid sequence molecule with a molecular weight of approximately 22,000 Daltons. There is no room for differences. The substance is either somatropin or it is not. If the molecule gets distorted even a little, it will no longer bind to growth hormone receptors.
The reason Chinese goods are often seen as inferior is the vast availability of cheap copies of everything (clothes, electronics, etc..) which visually appear the same as original but are composed of cheaper, inferior material and are thus lower quality and less durable. With production of somatropin this is not possible. The necessary equipment to even create it, comes at a multi million dollar price, so steroid “bathtub” labs are not capable of making it.
The only somatropin manufacturing method which is still used today (both in the west and asia) is the recombinant DNA technology, where E. Coli bacteria are genetically modified to secrete human growth hormone, which is then isolated and can be either lyophilized (freeze dried) or stored in the liquid form.
While somatropin is in the liquid form, it is very sensitive to temperature and shaking. If not refrigerated and handled with care the molecules easily get destroyed. While in freeze dried state, somatropin is not sensitive to shaking and it can survive temperatures up to 45 degrees celsius (113 fahrenheit). Because of this, it is only transported in lyophilized form.
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PH if you want to peddle your products here, you need to first work on your price competitiveness. No one's going to buy your stuff when it's priced 50% more than your immediate Generic competition's. Also, at this point you're just annoying. You are turning people off to your product. Get your .cn rep company listed as a source and let members decide if they want it. Or find a respected member of this forum to test your product and post the results. Stop having your buddies with no karma validate your product because they are actually harming your reputation here.
As far as Pharma V. Generic, since i've been on this board, a short time, I think this is the 5th topic on the issue. The point is moot. The individual has to do a personal cost/benefit analysis and make an informed decision. Then, there is also the issue of sourcing. If you've got the dough and the source get Pharma, if not, a tested and validated generic will do.
Nice catch. Next time someone please bring it to our attention.
AnonGood stuff brotha. I had a feeling he was a source.
Boogeymandnell1983 1 month ago
I have ran both.i save a lot of money running Hyges. I ran 3.5iu of Phama norditopin and I run 5iu of Hyges. Had my igf levels tested on both. My igf was 472 on pharma and it was 496 on Hyges. So I figured I'd save the money and stay on hyges.keep I'm mind igf can be effected by many things.my friend runs 3iu of pharm and his igf was up I'm the 600s.
TheRealOneAgree with Muta- it's absurd to even think this. I've serum tested Sero's out, and I've tested Hyges (I'm actually testing brown-top hyge's out for a source right now who will be listing soon). There is no comparison. Try Sero's and try UG and then come back and talk to me about the difference in side-effects. No comparison. HUMAN GRADE GH IS GOD. Now with HG- gear (i.e test, deca, ox, drol,) well I've actually found UG to be better in some cases. The same does NOT apply to GH though.
Boogeymanwhat dosages were you using? KK himself has igf-1 tested BOTH of them.
idc what kind of "sides" you are getting numbers are numbers.
your point is invalid.
AnonI haven't igf tested both. But I have ran both. I do generally run generics higher though. But not much higher. I will finish doing my current igf on hyges then im switching to nords.
AnonI find it funny that you would take ugl aas over pharma. i would gladly take watson test cyp over any ugl test cyp. but i guess to each their own.
I think he probably means ug labs are better cause you can get blends, high mg products, overdosed vials, and rare compounds that big pharm doesnt have. Everyone would take the pharm grade if you were just comparing test cyp 200's.
AnonI see. Ugl does have way more selection and much more cost effective
Anonhttp://www.somatropin.cn/difference
stop pasting articles - this is copyright infringement. Is that intelligent enough?
ill end with, no Chinese GH has shown HALF the IGF numbers of running a high dose of US pharmacy grade which is the only representation of how good the HGH really is
Lastly, your name is "peterhyge" so I believe you're probably trying to make up for your lacking funds, or products.
peterhygeFirst and foremost the name i took reflects the fact i have been using Hygetropin for 3 years now. I have lived in Thailand for 5 years and have easy access to both Chinese Generics and Big Pharma products.I am certainly not lacking in funds....lol.I have done several GH blood serum tests and they have always shown a higher elevation in GH than any big Pharma results i have seen ( probably because Hygetropin is well known to be overdosed for the bodybuilding market) I will soon be posting my latest Gh serum test for everybody to see..Again this article was posted for discussion. .
TheRealOneThen you should know the Chinese have actually found away to spoof the serum levels (IGF-1)? with whatever they have found to give a false number. Dude, why do you think there is so much BUNK UG-GH. THOUSANDS of people in this community have been ripped off on garbage GH. If it was soooooo easy too replicate they woudn't have so much stuff out there that came back at 0 serum levels. Go to some big boards out there and actually look at all the serum levels and see for yourself. I've been running sero's for over 2 years. Trust me, doesn't happen with UG.
Anonyup they have found a way to elevate the serum levels. That why we test for IGF around here. Only sure fire way to know if you what you have is real.
Personally, if I was getting higher GH Serum levels from a Chinese brand vs a quality controlled Pharmacy Product, then I would be concerned what additives are in the Chinese Brand. In reality, 10Ius of Chinese brand should be the same as 10ius of Pharma brand. Somatropin is Somatropin. I'm not sold with the "overdosed" sales pitch. But hey, if your happy with that particular product, all the best bud. Happy pinning. >_<
AnonAlthough I do not agree with what he has posted,and believe he is a troll and/or a source in disguise. And I also believe pharma is always better whether you are comparing watson test to ugl or pharma hgh to generic. As far as generic showing half the numbers of igf I disagree. I have seen a lot of igf tests done on brand name generics that show great elevation and def more then half.i also feel there us a lack of pharma testing. This being link below being a direct comparison. It does show pharma is better though. You also did say high numbers which I dont believe this qualifies as high. But most hgh users I see on her dont run it very high whether it be pharma or generic.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/pharma-igf-vs-generic-igf
CryingTigerwell aren't you the only one that has IGF posted of running 9 ius of pharma a day? don't think anyone else on here tested for that.
peterhygeI am sorry if something in this post has offended you......but i put this up for discussion. If you disagree with this post why don't you leave an intelligent reply.
Troll somewhere else fool. Nice username too.
Why aren't you banned yet?
Give it time....you must have been reading my mind lol