posted Thu, 08/08/2024 - 09:12
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+ 1 Test Enanth vs Test Cyp for TRT
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I'm looking to use 150mg per week (75 mg e3.5d) for my TRT. The modern medicine system has failed me, so I've decided to take my healthcare into my own hands.
Is one preferrable over the other, in general, when used for TRT vs bodybuilding?
Thanks in advance for your time and assistance.
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Props on taking the initiative to take care of yourself. It’s amazing what you will find with functional medicine and doctors that are people also.
I run CYP for cruise protocol at 200mg a week, I have used it in other cycles, but typically switch to ENT as it’s less oil injected (ie 400/ml vs 200/ml). Everyone has mentioned the feeling of ENT, I personally only notice the difference at 350mg+ , but it is easier to stay cool & calm on ENT. Until chatting on here I assumed incorrectly about the feeling of the two. I have not tried any PROP, i have some as it was freebie & I had read up on PROP as a pre work out sort of thing, but then read most were a TNE for pre training. I wasn’t going to pin everyday when other options available.
Me personally. I feel the enanthate kicks more and is better for cycling. I like cyp better for cruise give me less sides. But also less kick. And that's not dose depending. I've run both high and both low. I also like having the diff compounds to switch up. Among others clearly. Those and sustanon. To me are best test bases. Again this is purely for myself. Everybody is different.
You sure your E isn’t just overdosed? I’ve always seen test is test, but I’ve never tried enanthate. I’ve used cyp for quite some time and I’m trying out prop to see if I like it more since some say it’s nicer to have the highs and lows.
So far prop and cyp are the same for me. I do ed subq injections for both and didn’t notice any difference at all. Got bloodwork coming in very soon to see how it affects bloods but I assume it’ll be the same.
HarleyDavidsonEagleany pip from the prop
HarleyDavidsonEagleYou actually feel this “kick” or is it a placebo effect ? Never tried Eth , Cyp has been my go to
I run a tad dryer on the cyp, otherwise not really much of any difference
No difference. American Drs use cyp. Euro medical is enth.
Some people respond better to one vs the other. I myself seem to be more stable and have better overall cycles on E than cyp. I can't explain why but seems like negative sides are worse for me on cyp where I have no negative sides on e
I think the ability to find better quality dosed gear is Aimed towards enanthate. Otherwise can someone explain why a source sells cup dosed @ 250 vs their 400E vial.. why don’t we see test cyp 400? I
Enth can hold easier in oil without overdosing the solvents which add more pip.
You don’t see cyp 400 because it isn’t as soluble as enanthate.
You cannot fit 400mg of test c in a mL of the oil. It will just crash.
You can see this as a good or bad thing though. Very doubtful you’re looking for overdosed gear if you’re on trt. You want it to be dosed correctly so you can safely and accurately give yourself the correct dose.
If you just want the most testosterone you can get then sure. You can potentially get much more testosterone potentially in test e marked 250. Could be overdosed by almost double.
Personally when I see 250 I want to know I’m getting 250. I don’t want to be guessing or have to do bloodwork every vial.
Frankly speaking, and I’m a pussy and extremely sensitive to pip, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings at all if sources started putting out some 200mgml as an option for us sensitive folk.
@Drexyl have you looked at the international sources. Some carried 100mg pharma.
I haven’t but definitely will. Something like that would be perfect for when I’m not on cycle. Thanks for the pointer
Could always dilute it yourself with sterile oil. I’m sure you could get sterile mct or grape seed oil fairly easily.
I don’t want to discuss forbidden topics, but does it dissolve properly? Adding an additional 10ml of oil will accurately cut the concentration in half without doing any other steps?
Wouldn’t mind trying some super test 500, has anyone and can you tell me if it’s unbearable?
I run 500mg often. Blending is mandatory.
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That’s my exact trt dosage and dosing schedule. It works perfect for me. Also i run Cyp on my trt.
It really doesn’t matter. Enanthate has slightly more testosterone by weight so you get a little more bang for your buck, but it’s literally 70% vs 69% so really not that important.
The half lives are also very similar with cyp being a bit longer. So more blood stability with less injections, but it also takes longer to get stabilized if you change your dose around. Once again really not that important.
Overall it kinda just doesn’t matter. Pick one and stick with it. You can always change I guess if you want to try the other one, but you probably won’t notice a difference.
I appreciate the response. It's curious that the US uses predominantly Cyp and Europe Enanthate. It's just bizarre!!
The only notable difference imo is that cyp has a greater potential to crash
What do you mean by crash?
When the compound falls out of suspension
What happens then? What does it look like? Does the base powder separate from the oil and collect at the bottom of the vial?
Tends to crystallise
Yes but WE CAN also use the crashing as a sign of real steroids inside
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There you guys are. Haven't seen you 2 converse in a while
Usually occurs due to cold weather. Some compounds/preparations are more susceptible to “crashing” than others, ie Cyp more than E. That is why I choose E.
Yes, crystals form inside the vial to varying degrees. Not exactly a big deal, warming the contents will allow the compound to fall back to into suspension
Although, some claim a greater instance of pip after this has occurred
US guy here on doc prescribed cyp compounded in MCT oil. I just switched to ugl test e and have been feeling a noticeable better feeling the last week or so.
Just an anecdote but I think it's worth switching it up to see what works/feels best for you.
My doc couldn't locate pharma test e for me so I took matters into my own hands.
I feel better on enth myself.