posted Fri, 11/21/2014 - 12:33
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Feedback before Endo Appointment
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Hey guys I would like to get some advice from experienced guys on my blood work and my Endo app. I am unsure hoe much information I should give up on my experiences. My Test levels have been extremely low for a long time now and I have just now decided to do something about it. I did not explain my history to my Dr and don't know how much to tell the ENDO. I have been off cycle now for 7 months and did a normal PCT with high level source. I have tried to raise my levels naturally with different supps but no luck. I do not have an issue with getting on TRT I just want my manhood back. It has been a very difficult stretch for the last 6 months. Thanks in advance!
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If I were you.
I would leave you aas use out, if it lands on your medical record you could have problems in the future.
your premium will go up or they will drop you. Word of advice your insurance companys talk. So Allstate auto will assume your on aas and that in the insurance company make you a risk.
Let the endo do what she does. If you new to the endo they do not trust you. Once you know them for a few years. It's a different story.
All of what you just said is against the law, highly regulated, and would not happen. Total violation of HIPAA
I worked in mental health for years. HIPPA is very often misunderstood, as is confidentiality between you and your doctor.
Your doctor is required to share your personal medical information with the "Treatment Team". This includes other MDs, nurses, medical secretaries, billing personnel, and yes, your insurance company.
Your insurance company has the right to access your entire medical record. Your only "out" would be if your MD didn't write it down, which is not likely since omitting such critical information would likely be malpractice.
If you change medical insurance plans, they will likely want you to give them permission to access your old record. While HIPPA does require that you give permission, if you did not think your steroid use was part of the record, you would probably just sign the permission form without a second thought.
If you try to buy a substantial life insurance policy they will make you give them access to your entire medical record as a condition of selling you the policy.
If you hide information or lie on their health information questionnaire they will just refuse to pay on the claim when you die. And you can believe if it's a big policy they will dig deep looking for a reason not to pay.
But I do really doubt that an auto insurance company can get any access to medical information.
Regardless, I will never disclose my use to my doctor unless it is a matter of life or death.
No disagreement here.
Suffice it to say, any lifestyle choice (or preexisting condition) deemed unhealthy would raise your life insurance premium. (Smoking, past and current drug use. Hep C, obesity, heart disease, cirrhosis, etc.)
Life insurance companies will ask you to sign a HIPPA waiver to gain access to your medical files. (which after rereading your post you essentially said the same thing.)
They will also conduct their own medical examination and blood draw.
It happened to my brother in law.
MetLife found out he uses test, mast and tren. They cancelled his life insurance. A month later his Cigna increase by 100$ and his car insurance told him it would increase his premium by 500$ when it comes up for renewal.
All a coincidence maybe or maybe not. I don't trust the governments hippa. In a world were information is sold. I know this for a fact my wife works for a major health insurance company.
According to my wife in (HHS/OCR 2003 45 CFR 164.501) you will get screwed with the section that's labeled for Underwriting, fraud and necessary to run business and support core funtion of treatment and payments.
She told me hippa is the biggest deception. Insurance companies pay the small fine if they get caught. They pay fines all the time and then sell it to a system the insurance companies underwriters.
Without divulging too much info I'm going to have to trump your wife on this one.
I would hazard to guess there is more to your brother-in-laws story than what you've been told
I think you and your wife need to read or reread, HHS/OCR 2003 45 CFR 164.501
It's a big stretch of the imagination to think that your brother in laws info would classify as R&D worthy, could not be redacted, and would be information that an auto insurance company would be given access to.
Your probably right brother. No one tells the complete story. I, my self asked him. Why are you running a cycle, if you know you have blood work for life insurance.
My wife know about all that stuff. She works for Humana. She always advise me to not disclose some info to my doctors.
Pharmacy Benifit Manager aka PBM
PBMs routinely sell de-identified or aggregated data (data from which personally identifiable information has been removed) to data miners. Data miners resell the data packaged as different types of reports. These sales are legal because de-identified data is not covered by California or HIPAA privacy and security requirements.
Reporting to insurers.
PBMs don’t sell individual prescription drug reports directly to insurers. Instead, they sell identifiable prescription and data to companies.
Which companies do you think are buying this information. Auto, health, life, and all other insurance and underwriting companies
I would be 100% honest, who is your doctor to judge. Last year my primary care tested me and my test level was 193. I got on a cycle after that without going to an endo. last month my levels were 2200. I told my primary what I did and she was happy because she thought there was something wrong with me because of the high levels. I am now going to an endo and I will be completely honest there too. I feel great since I started but I want to make sure Im not screwing something up. What is the worst that can happen, you wont agree with what they tell you? Let the doctor give an opinion based on all the facts.
I appreciate the feedback. I went to Endo appointment and unfortunately in my region there are not too many DR that are receptive to my issues. Maybe it is because of my age and not being honest about my history so they were wanting to test a bunch of different things. They wanted me to do a sleep apnea test and pituitary analysis. I tried to be patient but I was feeling so badly after 6 months of being so low that I got back on. Feel completely normal now. Cross the bridge later I suppose.
Really depends on your relationship with doctor/endo. I told my primary doc about "youthful indiscretions" and it was no big deal. (Of course, I didn't tell him that my "youth" ended at around 45.) If you're well below the 300 ng/dl test level (which is the very bottom of the "normal" range), you'll probably end up on some kind of therapy whether you tell doc, endo, etc.
Since you're only 35 yo I would be honest. If you were older like 50's or 60's there wouldn't be any question you most likely were normal low test. But he's going to know something is up due to your age. You'll probably save a whole lot of testing for cause with the truth.
hunteron20sI would say there isnt a hope ..you will be a trt .your estrogen is what i would work on to get way down asap