posted Sun, 11/09/2014 - 03:53
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So after cycling on and off for just over 3 years I have not had any issues with my test levels between cycles. I have been off cycle now for 6-7 months after cycle I did PCT and since have been going down hill in every department. I have checked my bloods in the past and been fine. This time when my bloods came back after this long of being of my test levels were only 74. I get my bloods done on the side and not by my doctor. Just trying to get some feedback from others on their experiences with similar issue and is it time to get checked for TRT. I am not feeling good and want to get things resolved.
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This is my blood work from before and most recent. Still waiting on the paperwork from the test levels.
Going to the Dr. tomorrow I will post all of the results. The Test levels that were checked were done on the side and I do not get a print out of the results. I am getting my Dr to run the tests while in the office tomorrow. My bloods done from the Dr said my liver function is still elevated and he wants me to get an ultrasound done. I appreciate the posts. I am extremely confident the PCT was legit and did a traditional PCT exactly how I have since I began. This time was just different afterwards. I am honestly fine with TRT and knew it could be a possibility before I started.. I will continue to BB once I get my levels worked out for now I am just concerned with Healthy living.
Keep us updated on here mate. Good luck
Running gear for a decent amount of time by most becomes a life long commitment. As an over 40 I took into account and accepted that fact before I ever started. Gotta agree. Go see your endo brother...
Post the lab test
Please go to a doctor. Why would you risk it? This isn't some thing to screw around with. Go ASAP.
I d like to know what the entire lab test says.. ie FSH ..estrogen etc.
What was your pct u ran last time? Get pharma grade hcg Clomid and nova. You could go to endo which would be my first move and let them help u reboot your hpta
He has been off several months it ain't looking good.
Ya but maybe the pct he ran wasn't right or it was bunk? He needs to get pharma grade asap.
Regardless if it was bunk bro, seven months later he should be back on his own. He obviously isn't.
I think his best bet is your recommendation to see in an endo. Short of that he has a decision to make and it is one we all have to decide eventually. Either to go on and stay on (TRT) or go off and stay off for good.
I am starting to believe for us over 40 dudes (not that guy) once we open pandoras box of AAS our fate is sealed.
Hitman187So your saying even if you do everything right when you cycle, and take the proper time off in between that if you do this long enough you will eventually be forced to either trt or give it up?
Not necessarily, but likely. I've bounced back for 12 or 13 years nicely, test levels very good for even a 25 year old. Then last cycle, without warning I just didn't recover anything like I usually do.
My view is this. Without doing things properly it may have happened sooner. Given me more opportunity to get out "while the going was good" by following protocol. TRT now looks inevitable IF I want to continue in bodybuilding.
With me starting AAS so late I think it has been even worse. My numbers were pretty good after my first cycle, then high 400's second and now high 300's third. This is even with pharma PCT gear and doing my damnedest to PCT right.
So the question begs louder and louder. Do you want to feel good and look good in exchange for being a slave to the pin or not?
I think that is a question anyone who is thinking about using gear should ask themselves before they even start. " do you want to risk being a slave to the pin and possibly children " because I know a few guys who just didn't bounce back and had good pct meds and only did a basic test cycle and now they are trt after getting a few treatments done with no luck.
It is as real as it gets. Thankfully TRT is not the end of the world, but it is something I do not take lightly. I have mentally agreed to it and then changed my mind dozens of times. And that is just in the last week,lol
After reading this thread i may just have to bomb the board with my REAL AND HONEST OPINION about cycling AAS...... i think a few of you know the angle were im gonna come from regarding CYCLING and BLAST/CRUISE theories......... problem i have is that i dont think the board or most guys here are ready to hear what i have to say.... so i need to dwell for a while to think ot through and make sure i word things correctly................. even better! i take it into the ADVANCED forum..... yeah thats the way i think..
I am on my way...
right behind ya
slow down boyz................. gimme some time, this is cutting edge stuff and i need to prepare the post properly then it reads right and makes sense..... what i can say here is that i believe in the theory 100% and that it coming from me means its been tried and tested on all my crew and results are damning that it is the proper way to do things (at any age)
Ok mate... look forward to having a read of it...
Sent request to the group.
Be looking for this myself
Not just a matter of time/old age mate, some unlucky lads at the age of 25 don't bounce back after a simple test cycle. More commonly it's the older boys who run into the trouble though.
Follow the lab uploads of lots of the 40+ gents who are battling with the choice of suffering more months trying to boost natural test levels or live with the hardship of TRT. This is why it's important to cycle smart at a younger age.
I cannot say that definitively bro but from what I have seen it sure looks like it. We are putting a whooping on HPTA every time we cycle. And the older we are the less able it seems we are to recover.