Sustanon injects
First time ever using sust. All of my gear to date has been long estered except tren ace. Never had any problems with PIP other than expected. The gear is 500 per mil and I am m/w/f @.75 mil dosing and I am finishing my 6th week. I have been rotating from quads to delts and every inj leads to a small knot at or around site lasting on average 5-7 days. Since I am only doing quad and delt the sites are starting to overlap on PIP which is causing some issues. The quads are 1" 23g and 25g 1" for delts. I am contemplating going to different sites like chest with 5/8 pins but am concerned it might be the gear. I have done some searches to find that some people have problems with short esters like prop. Looking for some advice before I pin next to see how some other people have made out with this type of issue. I have seen posts that say to heat oil for 10 mins at 225 to clear any possible causes with oils. The source of the gear is very reputable on eroids. I am also contemplating my last inj for this sust and switching to enth to ride the rest of the cycle. Thanks in advance.
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I am going to try to heat up the oil a little more before the inj this time. Usually I run the hottest tap water over the vial before for about 30-45 seconds then clean with alcohol swabs. Friend of mine said microwave some water and let it sit in there for 2 mins before I get started. I am going to be adding tren in this week at 2.5mils and dropping the 500sust to just a half a mil and run that for 6 weeks. I am thinking that adding the oil from the tren should make the sites not so bad. I am interested in trying the pecs but what is the recommendation for mils in that area for a virgin shot? Thanks to everyone who has replied!
Def try adding a ml of Filtered Grapeseed Oil. I occasionally get PIP with certain gear and never got it again after diluting it with the grapeseed.
You are getting about 10 days between injecting the same site which is fine (altough the more sites you can use the better.i always did 6) but if PIP is still present for that length of time and your not a newbie to injections then it's the gear itself thats causing the PIP, simple.
Heating the oil only helps make it less viscous and a little easier to inject, it has nothing to do with making bad gear less painfull (unless the gear has crashed of course) but then i'd send it back anyway.
What is happening shouldn't be happening, poor brewing.
I would for sure add more injection points Brother. www.spotinjections.com
Pecs are gravy, 25g 5/8. Also Glutes are very simple as well. The more you rotate the less problems you will have. Rotating gives your muscle that much more time to heal. If you have knots, Take a hot shower and massage them out. Do it 2 times a day until there gone. High EO products give me some small lumping and this is all I had to do
Thanks. 90% of the time I take a hot shower after just to keep the flow going with the oil. I didn't think about the melting point of shorter esters being much higher so don't think I was heating the oil up enough before. A heating pad 20on and 20off for couple hours and massaging didn't help on my quads.
I find best way to heat oil, is in the syringe with heating pad folded over it. Helps a lot, or even cut with GSO then heat.
Heat the oil in a toaster oven... I've never had pip on the 250, but felt like I tried to inject rocks on the higher blends. Once I heated it and slowed the injection time down my pip went down by 75%. Or try a lower concentration. I stick with 250 now and pin a cc every 60hrs. I wouldn't suggest rotating into virgin muscle on a high mg blend though. , I pulled a fail attempting that last year. Just my 2cents
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I was going to start on glutes but didn't want to have virgin muscle issues along with a lump and excess pain. Thanks for your reply
Use more sites mate it could be from the prop i was ok with long est then used prop and had some probs like this but it goes away you will get used to it
waltra buddy of mine has been running some sust 500 and has the same problem. I think it has something to do with the way the gear is made to hold such a high concentration of the testosterones in suspension within the carrier oil.
you could try cutting the stuff with some other sterile oil to disperse it out a little bit and see if it helps, but that's about the only suggestion i have, sorry if it's no help =/