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I agree 100%, diet is the key!
measure all meals by the kilo... and you shall be fine
hahaha! And thats how you BULK!
What is this "cardio" you speak of?????????????
lol poofinger man, I knew you would say that! Cardio WTF????????
:-)
Hey mate I would steer clear of T3 unless you are actualy competing mate. Probably even steer clear of Clen or Albuterol as well. They should really only be used pre-comp
I know I'm gonna sound pretty lame.
But why?
Heart issues etc?
Well mate they are both not to be taken lightly. Clen when taken incorrectly can cause heard damage. It is quite common to heart palps while on it. It elevates your heart rate and also your core temp (thermogenic). As for T3/T4 I don't know that much about it apparat from if your thyroid shuts down while on it you will be taking T3 for the rest of your life. I personally would only take T3/4 if precomp and on GH and slin. That way it negates the fat build up of the slin and still allows you to come in shape.
Apparantly clen causes necrosis in the heart muscle.
I would like to hear more about this if anyone knows? According to the article this was at a dose of 5mg/ per kg. What are people dosing clen at to get fat burning effects?
Personally i wouldn't touch it even if i was competing, but thats just me. Im sure its possible to be used responsibly? But for me the average gym rat, its not worth the risk.
http://jap.physiology.org/content/93/5/1824.abstract
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrosis
at 5mg per kg im not surprised. sounds like 1mg per kg is plenty
Didnt know about the necrosis of the heart muscle. But yeah people take it far too lightly. I am also guilty of this in the past.
ive gotten good results with clen and t3, stacked together i got freaky lean. t3 is a dangerous drug tho, can do some serious non irreversable effects from it, its a massive risk fucking around with ur thyroid gland, chick friend of mine was competing in fitness model comps took lots of t3, think she stayed on it for maybe 4-5 months, now when she's not on it she has a slight bloated look about her,
I took T3 at a fairly low dose and ended up in a pysch ward....
didnt expect that one....
never again!
Well, I think everyone has solved this for me. No T3! or Clen.
Damn too, got in stash x2 200mcg/30ml bottles of Clen (check picture)
I read an interesting article on Zyzz's cycle.
Pretty full on! with the T3 & Clen.
http://steroidblog.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/zyzzs-steroid-cycle-names-of-...
Personally i rekon a good aas stack and diet + cardio and you should have it sorted. No reason you cant get sub 10% bf doing that. Im not up to speed with a good cutting stack, ive been bulking for 6+ years lol as i started out a super light weight. But im sure some fellas could give you a good idea on whats the go. I think anavar, prop, and stana are all good things to look into tho, and much safer.
Thanks Aussie_Lad.
I started out a fat fuck, then slimmed right down with the right diet, prop & NPP and shit loads of cardio. (Cardio for me was walking on tready after workout for a good 40-60 mins at about 125 bpm for my age. Also at night used to walk about 7k.
There was an extra motive for all that cardio too. You know, I would be the bloke up the back checking out the sweet A*** on the chicks. :-)
aint nothing better than a sweet ass on a hot chick! mofos would be wondering why im running so hard on the treadmill, id have to say, im sooo close!! cant you see that ass up ahead! hahahaha
lol it :-)
im the guy who gets yelled out for bending the bar while deadlifting haha
not my problem... i paid haha
lol funny man!
I have only ever seen that once and it was when I lived in Sydney during the 2000 olympics and some dudes used to use the gym I was at rather than the olympic gym and these fuckers where the proper olympic weight lifting team from Bulgaria or some country like that. Geeez all the bars would be bent to the shithouse! I never saw them again after a few weeks. Wonder why? lol
fuck me... thats a suprise. how much t3 were u taking when that happened?? ive never gone over 50mcg a day and will do it for 4-5 weeks max when trying to cut up. if i'll do another t3+clen cycle i dont think i'll ever go over 80mcg of clen and 25mcg of t3, dont take it to rely on it to loose fat, if ur going to take any just use it so its a slight boost. i prefer using stan and anavar over clen/t3 anyway. lot safer
200mcg ED, wasnt fun
holy shit! most don't recommend going over 120mcg ED.
If you've noticed poofinger is not like most lol
Ive seen the horrible rebound effect it has from year round use too. many young girls in v fitness industry.. most end up back on it.. takes ages to come off properly. its ok for us guys. but for women it could complicate their chances of pregnancy later on...
Hey poofinger that could be a good thing for us blokes hahahaha
Yep there's a couple women I know that have had major complications due to t3, most guys I know are just addicted to duras, they can't function without it anymore!!
I cant take any of that stuff, clen,t3,dura,ephidrine ect
brings the bipolar bear out.
Thanks, it's good to know brother as ephidrine, modafnil & dextroamphetamine fuck me up BIG time with the bear coming out!
I read your posts with everything you're on lmao fuck me you're a beast bro!! I'm gonna start my first cycle soon, been holding it off for yrs but finally giving in...
just educate yaself mate, so long as you know how to use the gear, start low, and go from there. Ide have a look at getting a GP to do blood work before during and after cycles too.
Test and deca is about all you need too.
Hey poofinger what test your recommed?
Prop, Cyp, eth?
Also how much man?
Also how much with the deca?
Got my GP in check, he wasn't happy with what I'm doing as he's also a family friend but he's helping me out haha, I'm going the test e route, I know you're not personally a fan of dinas but would you recommend a tab to kick start the cycle or save my tabs for my next cycles? I've got almost everything at my fingertips lol
dianabol is good for most people, im just unlucky.
But ide save em for the next one, that way if you get any sides you know who the culprit is!
Sounds like the way I'm thinking and general consensus, are there any tabs I should really stay clear from? I've been training naturally for so long but got alot on hand, so I'm curious what to keep and what to pass on to someone else that wants em...
Halotestin
milberone (cheque drops)
methyl-tren
methy-test
andriol (overpriced useless crap)
Whats wrong with Halotestin ? supposed to have less sides than anadrol but with better strength gainz
Cool, don't hve any of those...if you see my post below thats what ive got, plus enough nolva, chlomid & anastrozole for quite afew cycles! I've got afew months before I jump on so hoping I'll have it all down pat by then...
Hey everyone...been trolling through all these bloody pages for months and months gathering as much info and knowledge as I can take in, who ever said shit like "meatheads" "roid heads" etc etc have no brains are ludicrous, it's not an easy task with so many compounds, cycles, pcts etc etc to figure out and do so precisely to the tee!!
With all that said ill be looking to start my first cycle in afew months, cutting the bf % down before I do so, ive already got my pct's in hand (yes I got them first!!) with plenty of nolva to take during cycle, I'll be doing test e as this seems to be the most recommended for a first cycle. I was also able to get hold of some dinas, oxys, vars and winny tabs, no not planning on taking em but wouldn't mind suggestions as to what to do with em?
Hey guys, I'm new to this forum, although I've surfed it for quite some time now.
Hit me up, I'm also on AGJ forums.
Fellas Ive got good local contacts and heaps of mates that train and cycle. Id say for the last 8 months HCG has been impossible to get locally for me or my guys anyway. Before this it was not a drama and well priced. Do you reckon Customs finally twigged we were using it on cycle and started a crackdown or is there more to it
Theres a world wide shortage....
Plus they are making the transition from HCG to rHCG.
basically its produced in a lab from scratch, not from prenant womens urine as it was done in v past
Cheers mate I has no idea.After cycling once with HCG and once without id planned to never not use it on cycle again. Looks like I will wait it out
Any one els here use the xframe source? When i click the source nothing happens for it? Also the source website says its potentially harmfull to my computer when i load it now. The owner emailed me saying that the visa check out does not work any more and they only accept western union.....sus much? I have bought from him before but i am starting to think hes been done and is now trying to get whatever he can from his remaining customers before he bails.
firstly dont mention sources in the open forum. Seriously bro you been around long enough to know the basic rules.
Secondly stay away from suspicous behaving sources.
Fellas, help needed again, I've read almost everywhere that 0.5mg of Arimidex eod is a stock standard way to dose it, I've got 50 x 1mg Veyron tabs on there way, should arrive Friday.. how do I dose these?
any suggestions or help would be appreciated, sorry for the newb question, but can't find the answer anywhere, cheers
Yep, I got my pill cutter at the local chemist, a long with my zoloft, xanax, diazepam, sequel and restoril! lol
Heath Ledger I'll see you soon mate!
Ebay "Pill Cutter" under $15 Delivered
yeh got one for $10.49 the other day. not too shabby!
yer depending on what compounds you're running could be anywhere 0.25mg-0.5mg eod