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+ 15 Oxymetholone (Anandrol/Anapolin) This needs to be out there for the masses too read.

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Ok heaps of interest lately on this compound so here are the facts guys. No BS. Oxy is considered to be a good size and strength drug but is a medium high androgen which means aromatisation. It is also very toxic to the liver. All of the nasty sides that you can get with AAS you will get with Oxy.No body can escape the severe water retention, acne, aggressiveness amd toxic effects of Oxy.
WATER. You WILL put on a lot of water weight with Oxy, so expect at least 2-5kg gain in BW over the first 10 days of useage ( you will loose this when you stop taking Oxy). This will give you a puffy moon faced look and if you are unlucky you will get kidney pains when you sit or lie down (sharp pains in the lower back and sides). This seems very common in users of Oxy. This water retention can be reduced by reducing the amount of salt, fat and sugar from your diet. If you like dicing with death then use a diuretic. Some people find that using a mild natural diuretic like tea or coffee can help. This huge increase in water retention is one of the reasons that Oxy makes you so strong in a short time. As water retention increases so does the interstitial pressure in the muscle cells and this allows the muscle to contract harder. This severe increase in water retention that Oxy produces is one of the biggest benefits, and one of the most dangerous sides. DO NOT ignore kidney pains!!!!!!!! Unless you want to end up on a dialysis machine for the rest of your life. This is serious guys.
Toxic effects. People with weak livers may have trouble with the toxicity as well as skinny BBers under 90kg. Arabic, Asian and African decendents seem to get much worse problems with the toxic effects than white or ethnic europeans, due to some weird quirk of human genetics. (have you ever wondered why dark skined BBers sometimes have yellow eyes). The first toxic effect that BBers normaly notice is a feeling of being sick. Not nausea just a general feeling of I don't feel the best. This is sometimes accompanied by headaches, some loss of apetite and difficulty sleeping. Appart from feeling a bit sick the most important side is the possibility of major liver damage. This is first shown by increases in SGOT and SGPT liver functions in your blood tests, and secondly the apperence of biliruben in the skin and eyes. Biliruben is the waste product of the liver, when the liver is under stress and over-working biliruben is produced and will show in the eyes and skin as a yellowish colouring. Biliruben it's self is a brown compound, and if you are in a realy bad you will have brown urine. Most of the other sources tell you too look for yellowing of the eyes when taking Oxy, but this is not a good test. By the time your liver has passed enough biliruben to colour your eyes it is already damaged! You may still be able to avoid SEVERE damage but prevention is better than a cure. The only acceptable test is a regular blood test every 2 weeks to examine your liver functions. Your liver will have less work to do if you cut fats and alcohol from your diet. It takes alot of effort for your liver to process fats, and the added strain of Oxy may be the straw that breaks the camels back. If your liver is under strain, possibly the first thing you will notice is some liver pain. This is usualy feelt like an uncomfortable pressure on your back, on the right side fairly high up. It feels like a dull ache, like you have been punched in the ribs. As this is caused by the pressure from swelling of the liver the pain (feeling of pressure) is worse when you breath in very deeplyor hunch up (or are constpated), as all of these compress the chest cavity.
HEART ATTACKS. Heavy Oxy use makes you a prime target for a heart attack. Not only does it increase your blood pressure but it also thickens your blood. Oxy is the most effective compound for increasing red blood cell count and is used medicaly to trat severe anaemia. This is one of the reasons it is so effective for size and strength increases, but also means that beacuse your blood is thick your heart has to work harder to pump it around the body. This is possibly the reason that powerlifters die of heart attacks, as they are some of the biggest users of Oxy. BBers that use Oxy do not seem to get heart attacks as they generaly do more cardio and pumping exercises that increase the size and efficiency of the vascular system. Apart from doing some cardio or fitness work to try and avoid heart attacks, an Oxy user should consult a doc about taking half an asprin a day. This has been shown to thin the blood and reduce the chance of heart failure.
OTHER SIDES. Oxy does aromatise, although Bitch tits are not common among Oxy users like they are in heavy test and nandrolone users. You will probably get some acne, and like most drugs treatment with RETIN-A may help. You will probably get aggressive, and like all the sides of Oxy they are dose related.
DOSAGE. Most experienced BBers who have used Oxy agree that smaller guys (under 90kg) should not use Oxy or at least take small amounts. It does seem that bigger BBers seem to have less probs with Oxy than the smaller guys. A 100kg BBer could take 100mg a day. If you are relying on Oxy as your main drug you will probably have problems. The smarter BBers seem to agree now that the closest thing to SENSIBLE Oxy useage is to take a small amount (25mg to 75mg per day) with large amounts other oil based steroids. They apparently compliment each other and give good growth with reduced sides. An example would be Oxy 50mg per day, Sustanon 250 2ml a week and Deca at 200mg per week, Test P a 150mg a week. This is not a recommended cycle. It would have greater growth effects than 200mg of Oxy daily, and greatly reduced liver damage in comparison. Oxy should not be taken for more than 6 weeks at a time. Those who use it for longer time periods than this use a smaller amount with tapering. If you are taking Oxy or thinking about taking Oxy please take this information seriously. Oxy is not a good drug for steroid beginners and if you are one of those persons who would not dream of taking 10ml of test and Deca per week then forget about taking Oxy. Most BBers do not realise that even a high dose like 10ml of Test and Deca per week will have less sides than taking 1 0r 2 Oxy tabs a day.

fusebox's picture

Nice bump. Just got some comped. I wasn't planning on using any orals for the next few cycles at least. I haven't done enough research to decide what I'll run when and if I do but pretty sure it won't be these. Thanks

poofinger's picture

I ran it for 20 weeks at 200mg/day, blood tests every 4 weeks, liver values werent too bad... Done more damage (according to the doc) after a week in thailand drinking piss???
I rarely drink so maybe it was that?

When i can get em, i just use em 200mg/pre-workout 3x a week..

Wardogg2010's picture

Well I guess ill try it and figure out if its a good idea or not wether to use it to kick start my cycle of Test E

wallabokkie's picture

Yeah sorry for not getting back to you earlier mate. But try something else brother

Wardogg2010's picture

It's cool thanks for the info

wallabokkie's picture

It's my pleasure mate

Deuce9's picture

sounds like your gonna need a double dose of tudca/udca to run with this.

Wardogg2010's picture

So if I pm starting my cycle of 500mg of test e should I take this to kick start my cycle off if my goal is to put on some mass at the begining?

wallabokkie's picture

Personaly mate I would steer clear of it. It is very toxic. THere are other compound that you can use to kick start your cycle. For one you can use prop. It doesn't have to be an oral

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Nice bump walla
It does seem like anadrol is becoming the next fashionable compound here. Alot of guys are looking in the results column without paying attention to consequences. I will be running a very low dose drol kick (25mg) next cycle for the purpose of review. Not even really a fan of drol but this is a review site :/

wallabokkie's picture

Yeah that was the main reason wht I bumped it up mate. I have seen as you have a lot of people wanting this compound in their cycles.

Slide's picture

good read thanks for spending the time to educate us a little more!

wallabokkie's picture

Not a problem mate

wallabokkie's picture

Ok guy's. Yes this is the third time I have bumped up and old post by me but this stuff is valuable knowledge to have so you can make an informed decision about this compound. Take this compound very seriously guy's

Aussie_Lad's picture

Great post, im always willing to learn and this is exaclty what we need more of. I had liver tests done while on dbol and my enzymes showed up some abnormalitys, doc said nothing too severe dont worry but lets do that test again, i jumped off the dbol and was on just test e 500mg per week when i had the liver tests done again and enzymes had completely returned to normal. Id hate to think of what oxy would do to the liver, it sounds a lot more severe than dbol. I really do prefer to take injectables and the basics like test/deca so far for me are great until i learn more. This write up alone has turned me away from ever touching oxys in the first place! Thanks man, excellent write up!

Guysmiley's picture

I want to chime in here and agree with the warnings people have stated. That said, I love Anadrol and have used it more times than I can remember. Its obviously not a long term item, but is great for a good kick start or when peaking your strength. In addition to the sides mentioned, many people, myself included also get from Anadrol mild to severe depression, cramping, and ungodly high blood pressure. It also does a real number on blood test results so be prepared for the look from your doc, if you know what I mean. Use with caution! Btw, theres a pretty well known strength athlete in NY who is known for taking literally, ten or more 50mg pills a day. How is he still alive? Beats the shit outta me. Lol

trainbrain's picture

Very informative post outlining the dangers of oxy. Great consideration and thought needs to be applied if your thinking about running it. Do not consider it if you are not experienced and you have not done the research. This drug should only be used by someone who has 10+ cycles under his belt and knows how to spell the word Oxymethelone.
Personally oxy is one of my favoutites. I take it 2-3 hours before I train and never take beyong 50mg day (training days only!). I will only run this for 2-3 weeks also as the effects of it fade after week 3. You also dont want to place your internal organs under the severity of stress any more then need be. Before you consider oxy you need to get some blood work done to check your liver, kidney's etc. If they are not healthy then do not procceed. Luckily i dont feel those kidney pains that ive heard so much about but if i did, I will definately discontinue use.

gcgeargold's picture

i tried them for 3-4 weeks, had my bday and ended up having a few drinks one night, then for 2 days after had kidney pains which id never had before, so that scared me off them for good.lol (yes i know i shouldnt have drank on gear, but it was my bday lol)

wallabokkie's picture

That's exactly why I posted this bro

Nitti's picture

Great post. This is one of the compounds I've never tried. Since I'm trying to pack on weight I've considered it seriously. I'm second guessing it now. I do have a question. As far as the liver/kidney toxicity. You mentioned more prominent issues in certain ethnicities. I'm kind of stuck in the middle of that. Not sure what class I fit into. My mothers parents are from Sicily. My fathers from Israel. Obviously Italy is in Europe. Israel is only a few hundred miles across the Mediterranean but on the horn of Africa. I guess I should assume I'll be one of the ones with a greater chance of kidney/liver issues? I have a healthy respect/fear of Drol. I probably won't use it but I still want to be in the know. I have some homework to do.

wallabokkie's picture

Mate if I was you I would put myself in the category of highest possible risk. Just to be cautious

Nitti's picture

Thats exactly what i'm going to assume

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Firsly i agree walla always gives a good post, for you nitti this is my exp with a/bombs. Only ever used it once and binned it mid cycle because i just could not hack the raging headache just like having a fucking axe through the middle of my head 24/7,i have used nearly every compound going and on stupid occasions lots of it,i really thought i was gonna die on this shit and look upon it now as the devil of all aas the gain is pure water and just not worth it IMO stay well clear d/bol is better.the worst thing was when i pissed blood.

Nitti's picture

Thank you brother! Warning and advice heeded! I'll steer clear! I have about 30lbs to gain to reach my short term goal. I'm up 10 right now but I have to assume some is water retention. It will probably take a few cycles to reach my goal given my body type so I considered drol. Between work and having two small rug rats, I can't take unnecessary health risks. Thank you. Still curious as to what classification I meet. I've always put Caucasian on applications and such but technically I'm half Israeli (Hebrew). Don't know where I fit. Lol

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Not too sure myself on that on bro from what you say i would follow your genetic path and play it safe all the way. You will get your weight goal by hitting 6/7 small meals plus protein shakes just using test/deca/eq/prop or d/bol frontloaders,stick at it bro when you get that 30lb you gonna want 40 Lol thats what usually happens Smile

Nitti's picture

Lol, thanks bro!

BeastMoDe33's picture

I'm So glad u posted this. I have a bottle of Veyron Oxy on its way, should be here next week. I purchased liver aid/support to run with this. Im gonna run 100 mg a day for 3 weeks

wallabokkie's picture

Liver support is all well and good however it needs to be more effective at detoxifying than what you are takin that causes the stress on the liver

Trenabolic's picture

Great post as always walla, very insightful. I have also ran oxy's once, only because I'm a curious cat. This stuff is extremely toxic and most of the gains you get are water weight anyways, not worth it imo.

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Carlos Danger's picture

I couldn't have said it any better! I am already prone to water retention and this shit is by far the worst...

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wallabokkie's picture

Thanks mate. Thats why I posted it. There has been alot of interest in this compound lately. The peeps need to know this stuff.