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Under Training Syndrome

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Overtraining: Myth or Reality?: http://youtu.be/MkGSLICePyE

kodiakGRRL's picture

when I am doing high volume high rep training for pumps I can work a muscle group in 30 minutes... I am sure they look at me funny when I leave before 99% of the other people who got there before me.. seems to work just fine for me .. I can maintain my size, work on conditioning in between cycles, and then hit the heavy stuff on cycle.

NoWeakAces's picture

Over training is real. It was a huge issue when I was natty.

On cycle, the issue isn't muscle recovery. Hell, running tren, I could train legs eod.

The issue is tendon and ligament damage. Just because my biceps crave preacher curls eod, my elbows aren't so keen.

stl's picture

This is actually why I do a different muscle group each day. This way everything gets a break even when I hit 7 days a week. But only usually do 5 when not on.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Mixed views in this thread from guys of a wide age difference.

I will keep my views to myself , but i will say this............ constant central nervous system shock will stop your gains dead in the water.

Train how you want guys idc.... but if you want to become Champions you need to work smarter.

kodiakGRRL's picture

Work smarter not harder... my best gains came (on and off cycle) when I switched to a push'/pull working one muscle group per week.... I got a LOT bigger and a LOT stronger.

Drop-set's picture

Too many people listen to Rich Piana...

Rest and recovery is what makes you grow, not doing bench press every single day.

tonytulo's picture

lmfao cant tell half of these guys that

kodiakGRRL's picture

huh? LOL

tonytulo's picture

A lot of rich piana worshippers.......

Drop-set's picture

PMMA and synthol can do wonders for arm size...lol

kodiakGRRL's picture

don't get me started on what I think about mr. piana

tonytulo's picture

Over training is under eating.

shawn0712's picture

It depends on your goals. If you're training for strength and power, the off days are crucial. Sometimes less is more. I'm stronger on a 3-4 day a week routine. If you're constantly pushing to max, you need time to heal and let the slow twitch fibers form.
Strength isn't always my goal. I straddle the fence between power lifting and building. I'll switch it up and focus awhile on physique. I'll usually do 5 on, one off. I look better during that time, but a couple weeks in and max strength isn't the same. You end up putting more emphasis on the fast twitch with constant contraction and less periods of rest.

I always thought the whole principle was bullshit. I feel great when I'm constantly training. I went camping for a week a couple years ago. I rarely took off days at that point. The second I got back I hit the weights, and added 50 pounds to all the major lifts. 2 weeks into my normal routine, I was harder, but the strength declined some.

Drop-set's picture

It depends on what your "training" means. your body does need time to heal. I do agree that most people under train though. 90% of the people in my gym just fuck around and dont know what they are doing. They will do some shitty curls, then wander over and do some leg extensions, then wander around and do some pulldowns etc.

robb's picture

I'd say about 90% of the people at the gym i used to go to just fuck about to, I'd look around and see just a few similar to myself putting the work in. A city centre gym i used was even worse, most days it was literally just me hitting it.

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dudebro's picture

Overtraining is complete bullshit. Go tell all the greatest athletes that ever lived that they're pushing themselves too hard and they need to dial it back a little or take a few days off.