Steroid abuse the only cause of LowT?
My friend's wifey is a personal trainer... Not a 4yr degree trainer, but the 4 month crash course local infomercial school trainer. I give her props on form, but she doesn't know shit about gear or science. I just spent the evening listening to her rant about the effects of juice lol. I keep my usage very low key, so they don't know for certain that I partake in anabolic ambrosia. Her argument tonight started with her claiming that this whole "LowT" epidemic has been caused by people who abused steroids early in life, claiming that diet and exercise alone will enable a 70yr old to have the same testosterone levels as an 18yr old. Then provided to tell me that steroids only increase muscle size- but make them weaker? And that off cycle you always loose more muscle than you gained during cycle... I just find it appalling that someone who is a certified personal trainer knows so little about the internal biology and chemistry. Either way, I'm done ranting for the evening.
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A huge part of low T is the environmental overload of estrogens in the meat and dairy...also the BPA (Bisphenol A) in plastics is another huge contributor of estrogen.
The amount of estrogen overload is staggering also contributing to the breast cancer epidemic amongst women. There is also the age factor our hormones do decrease as we age.
p.s. yr wifes friend has no clue what shes talking about even putting aside her lack of knowledge of gear...i have little knowledge of gear but a lot of knowledge on the role hormones play in both the male & female body and as a trainer so should she.
alayna, are some of these synthetic estrogens even avoidable anymore? i mean, i can avoid plastics and canned goods to stay away from BPA... but idk for meat and dairy... what are we supposed to eat everything organic?
Yes thats all you should eat...every store pretty much sells organic meat and dairy. organics are not much more expensive. food is so overpriced that organics are competitive in price. also you may want to avoid farm raised fish...if you read what they feed the salmon you'll be shocked. The nutritional value of food has decreased bec small farms are not supported any longer. these big companies like Tyson take over and they treat the animals so inhumanely and keep them in such deplorable conditions that the animals get sick so they pump them up with antibiotics and hormones to make them fat. they have no regard for the quality of their product or the consumer its all about making money. personally, nearly All my food is organic..def my chicken and dairy.
What ur saying make sense, ru some kind of scientist to know all that?
haha no im not a scientist but i've done a hell of a lot of research...its really scary how much synthetic hormones are prevalent in our environment and fyi BPA affects men moreso then women.
a lot of high or low estrogen can be completely genetic. meaning that no matter what you eat or dont eat, products you use or don't use, nothing will make enough of a difference. In other words estrogen levels can be off and having no relation to environmental factors.
But you are right environmental estrogens do play a role as well.
BigBmajYeah I had someone who was taking some advanced psychology courses tell me that they are just now learning the real psychological impact of using anabolic steroids. And he said its not pretty. I wanted to argue but I realized that it was a battle I couldn't win. He feels comfortable thinking his way and I feel comfortable being right (:
It took me about 30 years to finally admit I was wrong. And I usually am, and I will continue to be for life. But it took about 36 to learn to bite my tongue. Its so much easier. Why didn't I get the memo?
What is causing Low T is LACK of proper diet and exercise. (not discounting the occasional health issue) and it is a natural part of aging which is only now getting the attention it needs.
Technology has us working less physically and spending our free time in front of a TV, video game, or computer. Instead of family walks, bike rides, and softball games. (things we used to do in the 70's kids)
Lower muscle mass, higher body fat/estrogen, poor diet (one or 2 big meals a day) = lower metabolism = low T.
She is correct in saying that if you start back up and eat right, and exercise you can increase your natural test levels. But, she is incorrect to say that a 70 year old who eats properly and exercises will have the same T levels as an 18 year old
Bro science vs School science debate never ends good.
I got friends at late 20's who already choose to blast and cruise. My question will be after how many months/years of not comming off cycle can messed up ur testis for life?
AnonThey are probably just teaching that propaganda in the crash course, so trainers are afraid of the big bad juice monster.
Or simply just to keep people from getting big & muscular. Kinda like cock blocking you or muscle blocking you lol
tread-mDef/teaching= to cause to know something
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Def/stupid= lacking intelligence or common sense
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Def/dickweed= a completely self-absorbed useless asshole with shit for brains
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I'll take stupid for 500 Alex
I saw a PT trying to get someone who had never lifted before to do 70kg lunges. To take 70kg on each leg is like asking a noob to squat 140kg. WTF.
They charge £33 per hour for personal training!!!
tread-mI help people with low T as young as 18. Low T can be genetic at younger ages as well it can indicate issues with pituitary being a tumor even in a case where it cuts off pulse and the axis lacks the promt in balance and creates a T issue. It can come from many hormone issue or 100 other reason. Diet and exercize keep a 70 yr old at the test levels of an 18 yr old? I agree, if during the exercize once a week you fall on a pin that was pre-loaded with 250 mg's of test. Or if your diet includes testosterone dressing on your salad. Look, low T most often by far in the clinic or elsewhere is with people who have never used steroids.....AND SHOULD!
Your friend is dumber than she looks : /You knew that though. Here's how you solve this. You have to be very dimplomatic to keep the peace I know so just as politely as you can say it, say...
SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH, NOBODY LIKES YOU BEEEOTCH!
Wait wait wait.. testosterone in the salad..who jizzed in the salad?.. and can we feed it to her?
hmmmmm
LOL
BirmonThe "personal trainers" at my gym won't even make eye contact with me. I'm sorry but fuck them. I really can't stand going into the weight room and watching these fat ass, or twerp ass, "trainers" do their thing. What bugs me the most, they all seem to kinda belittle who they are training. I saw this trainer the other day walk his client to the Olympic Mat and say " Ok we're going to do deads now" So the guy, who has never lifted weights in his life and just paid $600 for 4 sessions says after looking around and getting red faced from embarrassment say, "I'm sorry I don't know what those are". The trainer gave him a mocking smirk and snarkily showed him what they were. It takes a lot of guts to start something new especially something as intimidating as lifting. Just walking through the door is hard. A dude wanting to learn should NOT be treated like that. Fucking trainers. Fuck them.
Made me feel like shit. I hope he doesn't feel like I'm a stuck up piece of shit like that. Or unapproachable. If I see a dude who's been working hard for months and can finally squat 250, I go up and tell him "Hey man, good job, that's a lot of weight, you're beasting bro". I don't brag that I can squat 550 or critique his form. Fuck that. He's busting his ass.
I remember I was a noob once. We all were. I have much more respect for the new, weak guy working his ass off then I do for the motherfucker that acts like he's hot shit and better then everyone else.
That's my rant.
WeatherwedIntelligent people are smart enough to know when and when not to make an assertion.
In my gym... The main personal trainer got her "certification" online in a crash course as well. She's rather overweight and just WOULD NOT concede to me that I know how to diet properly for my goals ( no clue I use aas) She ended up going to Weight Watchers to learn how to eat....and she trains people.