posted Mon, 09/23/2024 - 09:56
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Saturated Injection Site
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Guys I been using my delta for about 8 months for AAS and B12 now I notice no matter how little I pin I get tender welts in my delts. Can it come too a point where my delts are too saturated to absorb anything?
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I started pining Tren ace subq ,, you know just for shits and giggles but I didn’t really believe all the hype about subq until I was able to see results the exact next day..
I’m sold on the subq for a bit and when I switch between quads and booty cheeks I’m g2g.
The mistakes I made in the beginning
1) needle to big in gauge, was pinning with 23 g back in the day, the shit just creates to much trauma and not enough rest time, 25-27 is perfect and 1 inch seems to be the more universal if you had nothing but it…
2) not rotating inject sites, I could see my right quad and I had the advantage of control, there’s like two or maybe three spots in total in the vastrus in a segmented line. But I knew there was scar tissue when the oil was leaking back out.
Tell me more about this subq deal with Tren Ace. Whats the advantages/disadvantages and your personal experience?
My particular vial is hitting harder this way, there’s not much to explain, it’s very potent and if we are talking about absorption , it’s working better for me, the carrier is mct oil so it’s pretty thin as well
I won’t go back to IMing ace for a while.
You can pin tren ace sub q every day without having to go IM..that's just more appealing. I don't see any disadvantages to it
I truly feel that heat needs to go all the way into a muscle. Even GH. I have a complete pro bodybuilder friends who say sub q is not the way to go. Of course if it works for you then it’s the way to go. Absorption is best in the muscle from my research in the past. If you look up videos from old school pros they all say intramuscular.
Maybe everyone’s physiological self is different, you don’t gotta worry about hitting the exact part of a muscle though, I could see the carrier oils being a problem over time in the fatty areas, as far as absorption maybe it’s less but you’re getting more sustained release
I’ve never seen a study directly compare the two methods
Buddy what you said about the fat is exactly what I have read. You know your shit Chuck. SubQ is so easy.
I’m only going off of what I feel from very short esters
MENT ace, Tren ace
I do the same amount of oil, different admin.. and so far for those compounds, in my body, they work better subq.
When it comes to testosterone I will only IM it, I have a theory on longer esters in fatty tissue, I don’t think they break down and most hormone is lost, I would favor pinning test prop subq daily over pinning E,C,D,UD subq
Again, not sure if there’s research on this, and I’m only going off of MCT oil, can’t speak on GSO, Cottonseed or Myigol
Very interesting I must say. You know the web you can find completely different information on the same topic know matter what the subject. SubQ are the sides the same?
Worse localized pain at injection site, when you bend over for the next two hours the BA/BB really gets involved , it’s nothing worse than a bumble bee bite
Good to know. Keep us posted brother I’m very interested on how it turns out.
I’ve decreased Tren ace by half and still feel the same sides as far as sweat. Somnolence , shitty wind, dick dripping so horny, even brighter yellow orange piss, smelling like ammonia .
3rd day doing this pin style
Updated lol I urge anyone else to try this protocol and say it’s NOT better
Dick dripping that’s fucking hysterical lmao. Hot flashes?
No never that, hasn’t happened in recent times , could be solvents in the gear that sources have cleaned up on, much different Tren experience than the Tren I was pinning years ago
Tren back then as you know was guaranteed to give you a cough 30-40% of the time, vials were darker and thicker and had the liquid gold look.
Now a days the Tren looks like gso test, two different compounds imo
I made my own back in the day from pellets. Potent as fuck no flashes but crazy metallic taste. Now Balkan and SP Parabolan give me crazy hot flashes.
I’ve been having this terrible metallic taste in my mouth but I chalked it up to this particular sleep med
Pellets you say? Let’s get em done man
Yeah Chuck that metallic taste is from the Tren. I felt like I was sucking on a penny 24/7
That's interesting my man. Never thought about it like that. If I had to do either sub q it would be a fast ester but a bit more pain
How much are you injecting sub q?
AK80I don't want to hijack, but I've never done more than 50 units on a slin pin 31 gauge 1/2" sub-q and that goes for Tren, Test, Mast, Primo and HGH. If I was going to do 100 units, I'd use a 1" needle, but then you have to go up to 28 gauge. Anything bigger is intramuscular at that point.
Right because you would need to go deeper to inject that much oil
He’s right. I’m not doing anything over .5 bro it’s too risky, and I don’t feel like pinning something deeper and risk it into muscle lining or in between layer type shit.
Liking 27g 1/2 inch syringe tip, doesn’t take long to push in, however the trauma for the actual inject spot is obviously worse than 31g
Yeah but you can easily pin IM with a 27g 1/2. There's only seven layers of skin to run through and if your pinning quads or Delts where the muscle is right there 1/2 is in the muscle good and well
Delts, always leak a tiny bit of liquid no matter how long I leave the syringe in
AK80Might be scar tissue. You could try 31 gauge slin pins, but better yet, get it massaged and put a heating pad on it and forget that site for a while. Start using ventro glute, upper butt cheek, quads towards your outer knee caps, shoulders and even stomach close to your navel. Again, you can use the 31 gauge slin pins.
Bro, it’s possible your delts are getting overpinned. Hitting the same spot for 8 months can cause some issues like scar tissue buildup or the muscle getting too saturated to absorb properly. You might want to rotate injection sites - try glutes, quads, or ventroglutes to give your delts a break. Also, make sure you're using the right needle size and injecting slow. Give the muscle time to recover between pins.
Thanks Steroidify
Cheers, and stay strong, mate!
I wish I can get oil through an insulin needle
You can, easily
Really but I can only find 9/16 no one inch. I can buy 1 inch 29guage though.
That will be great
You can. Backload a 29 gauge, 1/2” insulin pin. I even bury that in my glutes and have never had an issue, despite many saying glutes need 1 1/2”. Anyway, I imagine there’s far less tissue damage injecting 1 cc with an insulin pin vs 2 cc with a 1 1/2” 25 g.
Don’t really recommend back loading
Not when you can get luer lock syringes, zero dead space for mad cheap, or even better
Your local needle exchange will give you barrels and tips …
I’m going to give that try
Guess I’m going to pin my ass. Just delta is so easy. Maybe just GH and Anavar.
Doing your ass really isn't that hard. Upper outside quadrant. So not like you need to contort yourself to see your butthole. Just a slight twist and you can see where to aim. As someone else said Ventroglute is another option which is even easier once you know where it is. Some people have issue when they switch to one buttcheek or another depending on which hand they are dominant with. Ive gotten pretty good with both my left and right hand.
People think they gotta be so flexible to pin ventro glute... It is literally your side. If you can look left or right you can do it. I mean what the fuck your arms should hang there
I’m one of them…. I always pin my quads. Honestly typically just the right quad. Reading through this post I absolutely feel the “full” saturated feeling. Need to work on this , my glutes are small, and I get sketched out by little tissue and the angles lol. I am being honest lol! I am
Not going to say it’s flexible issue, more of “I’m different” mental mind fuck, again stating I know it’s me and mental not my body. What’s your goto first choose for pinning & second “fav”?
Ventro glute is literally you hip. Flex and you will see it. I've pinned it with 1/2 inch tips easily before. Don't be scared. My go to is ventro glutes and delts
So I’m old school and run 1.5”, you made me think out side of the box, I need to get 3/4 or 1/2” Luer lock. I 100% grasp the idea, flex and poke just behind the hip; I’ll even say my mind says a mild down and through the cheek, not directly straight on.
AK80I haven't used 23 gauge 1.5" in almost 2 years. Just 30 gauge 1/2" slin pins. Last time I did my butt cheek, dark purple blood shot out across the bathroom floor lol.
I never pin at an angle and I never use 1.5 inch. 1 inch maximum and always straight in
gotta tell you something @NWApatches ... today was my first ventro glute pin, i ordered 1' & .5" luer locks (.5 for delts) today was the easiest injection I have done. ive been jamming 1.5' twice a week for almost 2 yrs.... FUCK!
@AK80 I have had a few bleeders, the worst is the "nerve bed" or what ever the fuck causes the insane twitch/spasm, that always gets a dribble of piss too!
AK80When I first started back in 2008, I used the yellow 1.5" 21 gauge harpoons. I used to put an ice cube in a baggie and sit on it for a minute. Enjoy the ventro glute!
I only use 1.5 22g. I would love to stop the crazy sticks
That sounds horrible. I started out on 29 gauge 1/2in insulin syringes pinning only quads. Around the same time frame
MAN today was my first Non-yellow tip! LMAO
Yeah bro. Throw those ol Excalibur fucking tips out and stay with what feels good and gets deep enough.
Trig I’m in the same boat. I need to order some 1”