posted Fri, 11/06/2015 - 22:05
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Cant find my post about refugee crisis in EU and whats not being told about it.
So im opening a new one.
Hopefully this one wont get erased if that was the case.
If someone agrees and feels the same way feel free to post links here also, just post civilized one`s please.
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It is not during an interview he said McCain has never brought up my Muslim beliefs lol I saw it live lol. Watch these clips u presented nothing this is him saying he's muslim. U can't say this is fake there his speeches Lmao from youtube
Dig into it, you will find out it is fake. The McCain interview, the original, it was clear in which context he was speaking and how he is offended by the accusations.
Watch that first video I posted and he admits it over and over lol
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY
Again that goddamn link doesn't work! Now, you can look at whatever spliced up piece of garbage you choose and it won't make it true. And if it is true he has NEVER said it in the context that YES he is a muslim. I am done with it. I honestly have better things to do.
It works for me I click on it and goes right to it? Don't want u mad bro but he's said he's muslim and this isn't spliced up pieces of garbage this is his speeches from CNN and other news sources can anyone else see if this link works please
it dont work bro........ its just youtube page
I know you cannot be that stupid dude. Just drop it
I found the video. Did you read the disclaimer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY
Of course they put that up so they can't get sued. I'm drop it. Well let it go hey did anyone see vike fall out of his chair laughing out us little counts lol
Little cunts lol auto correct
Of course if they were telling the truth they wouldn't be worried about being sued, now would they?
And regardless, we are getting off track. All religion is silly and for the simple minded. NO MATTER WHO IT IS.
Take ten mins and watch it please
Please!!!!!!!............ you two are gonna make me burst my stitches :( this is turning into the funniest thread of the year and i shouldnt be laughing right now because it fkn hurts like a bitch............:);)
I am half laughing and half shaking my head in disbelief.lol
im dying.......... i need fkn Oxygen :/
All them ciggies catching up to you....
lol........ im sat here flicking through this thread trying so hard to stop my abs moving or tensing and its nigh impossible lol
Just been on the news that we are getting ready to send bombers into syria....... our tornadoes will be flying out from cyprus......... next few days should be interesting, hilary clinton is firing congress up ... so it looks like we are going shit kicking again bro-stein
This is what politics looks like in America right now bro, 75% of people refuse to think for themselves or look at actual evidence over rhetoric. And yes I pulled the 75% number out of my ass, it is quite likely worse..
i believe you bro........ religion is a fairy tale science has proved that fact time over, like we agreed earlier this shit war is about Idealisms and sect type bullshit..... same over here the blindness is wide spread
I need to get completely off all social media until the election. It is only going to get more insane from here. People that I normally respect, they just all of a sudden lose their goddamn minds. Religion is the worst one. Everyone fighting over a 2000 year old fairy tale , translated and rewritten dozens of times. Is there any wonder it makes not a lick of sense today?
If I could plus that comment. All of this is turning into quite the shit storm.
I've recently realized that most people get their news, information and beliefs from memes on Facebook.
As if Starbucks and their red cup wasn't enough......
NATO needs to invade Syria and set up safe zones for the refugees. One radical terrorist is to many on our soil
StevebWhy? Most refugees are really not from there. Highest estimate was 11% Syrian and a lot of those had fake passports.
It's time for us and NATO to invade Syria and bring the fight to them. Isis isn't contained and it's just a matter of time before it happens here. NATO would then set up safe zones for all the Syrian refugees giving them a safe haven and keeping them off our soil. Seems to me the most logical solution to the crisis facing us. Iv never been great at math but according to my calculations 0 percent are from here. One extremist Muslim is one to many on American soils
It worked out great in Afghanistan and Iraq!! Oh wait... :/
StevebYou forgot Lydia, they're the most fucked.
RustyhookerLibya
Lydia, Libya, Labia.
It's a better idea than letting possible terrorist into this country that could harm our families. Unfortunately when u fight an enemy that doesn't show there selves u can't fight fair and u can't take chances that risk the safety of our countrymen.
StevebHow about we just protect our borders, stop backing psychos and terrorists, and stay out of other countries problems?
I like all u just said. I'm down but unfortunately our powers to be don't share those same views. Screw bringing refugees in when we have veterans and women and children homeless here. The problem is Isis is our business just tonight they made a new threat against the usa involving new York. They want us dead. It's hard to stay out of this conflict when they have the means to attack us on our soil. They have Isis members here right now bro. I'm all about closing our borders and protecting them and taking care of our own but I'm afraid it's to late for just sitting back waiting for the next 9/11
Congratulations! You just won the red herring!
StevebWhy not attack countries who fund ISIS?
Syria is there stronghold. I don't have all the answers. We would need a lot more Intel that we get with the news. I don't know the logistics of attacking those countries and how much that could cripple there reign of terror. In your honest opinion do u think if we close our borders and worry bout our own that in the next five years we won't have an attack here. I don't think any person could say there's100 percent chance we wont. It's an unwinable war unless we fight as nasty as they fight eye for an eye. The problem comes in if we sit back and do nothing at all. They still hate us and want us dead. There still planning and scheming to destroy us.
StevebThey flood in from Turkey and Saudi Arabia funds then and buys the oil they sell. The "Moderate" rebels give them all the weapons they get from the US.
We can all have suggestions on actions that need to be taken but we have about 5 percent of the Info we would need to make any decisions. We know so little of the actual info they have that neither me or u could reasonably come up with a fight strategy. Unfortunately for us we depend on people that have that info to make the right choices and I don't think we have those people in office right now
We should keep them out of here and for the most part I think that is much easier and better than going over there and playing whack a mole with them. We cannot win a war when we constantly keep replenish their ranks with others looking for vengeance. That is what is driving a lot of this you know? Don't get me wrong I am all for killing them all but we will still abide by the Geneva convention and so will the rest of NATO.
So right now we kind of get to skirt around that by just bombing. If a bomb goes off course and kills a bunch of civilians we can bullshit our way out of it, when we are on the ground with forces that isn't so easy. But regardless of that, put yourself in the average syrians shoes for a moment. Say we were in the middle of civil war and all of a sudden we are being bombed by a dozen countries but mostly by say Russia and China, well next thing you know a bomb blows up your house with your wife and daughter inside, you and your son survive. You know what you would do, especially if a bunch of dudes you know are resisting and want you to join the fight against these foreigners that are attacking you... This didn't just happen in Syria tho...
I don't know the answers but I promise you none of them will be simple or painless.
Not an easy solution bro. I'm afraid we can't just sit back and wait. There are extremist Muslims on our soils as we speak. I have always wanted to protect our borders and take care of our own.Unfortunately I think that time has come and gone. It wouldn't matter if we didn't do anything in Syria and Russia did it all bro they would still hate us and want us dead. I get what your saying but our logic doesn't apply to them.me or u wouldn't send our children out with a bomb to kill an enemy. We could sit back and do nothing and hope nothing happens here best case scenario or take the fight to them and fight fire with fire but in either scenarios they still hate us and want us dead
That is what we pay the FBI to concern themselves with. You may recall the Patriot act and how many of our rights and freedoms were stripped in the name of it. How much more freedom are you willing to give up to stop a few nuts and give yourself an illusion of safety?
I don't want anymore freedoms taken from us. I realize we have agencies that are supposed to track them if there here. My biggest concern is that the leadership of this country seems not to care. It worries me that we aren't a Christian nation anymore we are a Muslim nation just ask the leadership of this country. What is happening should scare most Americans bc the path this country is on is a downward spiral
We were never designed to be a Christian nation either. The sooner we get rid of all religion the better
Bro, your statements sounds easy but there impossible to achieve at this time in our history. First off we had the fbi when the 9/11 attacks happened it didnt stop it.if we wait as a country to fight this problem until they arrive here we are the losers. Secondly u can't have government without religion right now. We have a president that's stated this is a Muslim country. We have enemies that want us dead and use there religion to justify it. Our president is using his religious beliefs to affect our lives now. There no getting around it. Simply saying the sooner u get religion out of this the better. That's all great but it's not goin happen.
I'm sorry this is a Christian nation. What's on the American currency? IN GOD WE TRUST. U and I both grew up with saying the pledge of allegiance at school everyday. I went to a government funded school. ONE NATION UNDER GOD
Whether u like it or not religion is embedded in our current regime.wars over religion has killed more people than all the other wars combined. If we sit back and do nothing. They will attack us and if France brings up article five of NATO. That's says if one NATO country gets attacked they attacked all of NATO. So we just sit back let NATO go to hell. There is no turning a deaf ear and pretending nothing happening. Yes, we can do that but if our country does it we will get attacked by the same group that has made very real threats against us already. I wasn't a supporter of goin to Iraq and getting Hussein. If we did that we should of done it in desert storm but when we have an enemy that's attacked an ally and is threatening us the time to be idle has passed
It doesn't matter what we all said during the pledge of allegiance, or what's on the currency. Fact of the matter is, the US was created in an image to allow freedom of religion, but to ensure the church and state were separate. Nothing else matters. This is not a christian nation, nor is it a muslim nation, nor a jewish/catholic/pastafarian nation.
We are a mixed nation, of all ethnicities, beliefs, and religions melding into one.
your right the gov would work better free from religion but its not happening. All u guys can say it has to be this way but it won't happen not now at least. Our president is Muslim and his personal religious beliefs are affecting the usa. U can bang your chest and get mad but right now u can't separate our gov from religion bro. If they didn't want this in god we trust maybe they shouldn't have installed that belief over generations bro. U can't make kids say it ,print it on your money for generations. Then all of a sudden say this isn't a Christian nation. Our current president said this isn't a Christian nation it's a Muslim nation lol. The government is in deep in religious beliefs right now. I personally believe gov works better without religion. I'm agreeing with u guys but at this time it's not goin to happen. The gov has for years and years have instilled in us one nation under God but since we can't divide gov and religion right now bc of the current leader's then hell yes we are a Christian nation not a Muslim nation
Our president is not Muslim, nor has he ever announced he is. Our government is not deep in religion... here's a few quick facts why.
1) Abortion is not federally outlawed. All religions as far I'm aware regard this as sin.
2) Church/mosque/synagogue non-attendance is not punishable by law.
3) The government does not shut down for the Sabbath.
4) The government is not beheading it's citizens for their differing beliefs or lack there of.
5) Gay marriage is now federally protected. Apparently a sin.
We can keep going all day, you and I both know this. I don't have any qualms with people having faith, go for it. But to state our government has religious beliefs is outright misleading and factually wrong.
StevebAll the churches that signed the 501c3 are now part of the government. The government can now take their tax exempt status at anytime. Obama is a commie Muslim but these things were also going on before him. He is just continuing what Bush did and Clinton did before him. The US is not trying to stop ISIS, they easily could.
The numbers of people claiming to be Chistian in this country have been in decline for many years. In Europe it is even worse for people still believing in fairy tales. As far as our presidents religious beliefs, show us one , just one time where he claimed he was a muslim.
http://imgur.com/gallery/EnpentG
BRO FIST!
This war is about "Idealisms".............. isis have already killed more Muslims than any other faith...... they are just a fkn warped sect that need irradiating/eradicating...... gonna take forever though because we are all infested with their cells already........... these crazed fucks are being produced on a conveyor belt daily....... kill 1 and 5 more appear......... i really dont know whats going to become of civilisation as we know it brother... its worrying to say the least.
It certainly is. I see Europe reaching the boiling point very soon. Multiculturalism has failed miserably.
France said today that 70% of their prison population was Muslim?........ what does that say.
Here in England we have organisations in place to council school children against radicalism ???
At least we have the channel as a (wet border) but the rest of the EU has the Shenghan in place which is the real problem with border controls.