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Politics, EU, Refugees

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Cant find my post about refugee crisis in EU and whats not being told about it.
So im opening a new one.
Hopefully this one wont get erased if that was the case.
If someone agrees and feels the same way feel free to post links here also, just post civilized one`s please.

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rolltide3's picture

http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/p/US-Debt-by-President.htm

Under Obama the US debt has increased more dollar wise than any other president in USA history. Over six trillion dollars. That's a 53 percent increase in his six years to our total debt

Pale's picture

And guess who pushed for and voted in them increases and even threatened to shut down the government until he gave in? Nice try tho.

rolltide3's picture

Nice try what lol under Obama our debt has went up more per dollar than any other president
http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/75-trillion-debt-added-under-obama_824...

These are the numbers Bush was the second. Obama is number one for something I guess lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2715986/U-S-debt-balloons-7-TRIL...

America's first 43 presidents took 223 years to rack up the country's first $7 trillion in red ink.
Obama has duplicated that dubious achievement in less than five years and seven months.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-obama...

(CBS News) The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.

Pale's picture

You are completely leaving congress out of this and we simply can't. Notice the rise from president to president. Congress refuses to cut any of their pet projects and only adds more. If the president does not agree they won't pass the budget. This is not a president issue it is a systemic issue.

rolltide3's picture

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/debt-6666-trillion-under-o...

Bro every usa president has had congress. Every president. this isn't the first president that's had to deal with those issues. He's the leader plain and simple. Under his watch the national debt has exploded. It's only goin to get worse. Now put a president that done this and drove our country into a huge debt. Then add him standin by and not doin anything right now. If we get attacked on our soil after a legit threat has been made. He is goin down as the worse president we have every had. In my lifetime I have never seen the average american believe that the president isn't on our side. The average person thinks Obama has huge motives that not n this country best interest. I've never seen in my lifetime people scared of what he's capable of doin to his own people.

It's a scary time for america and the average citizen and Obama is a big reason why.

Pale's picture

Are you just burying your head in the sand or what? lol

rolltide3's picture

I'll just stop we see it two different ways. I have one more question for u and be honest. Do u 100 hundred percent believe without any doubt that Obama is doin all this for the USA and to better the average person here and there no ulterior motives. If u can't say yes 100 percent then I rest my case. If I can't believe or trust in a man that's supposed to be the leader then it's a bad day to be an American and what we stand for. Of course I don't agree with what a lot of president have done but this isn't about a different point of view. This is about so much more. the majority of this country now doesnt think he can lead us and growing more and more by the day.So I'll stop and it's great u have a different perspective that's what makes our country great

Pale's picture

I won't even play games with a stupid question like that. How the in the hell would any of know what is going on inside his head?
You really should educate yourself on how the budget process works in this country. One man doesn't write it or decide it on his own. Let alone a democrat pres with a republican congress,lol

Pale's picture

Okay Rolltide, you seem to be capable of finding news on conservative websites that fit the few you want to project but here is a link, (just for you) to help you understand how the budget process works.
http://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-introduction-to-the-federal-b...

As you will see, the president submits a budget proposal. That budget could have all kinds of cuts (see sequestration) for instance, and then it goes to congress where they slip back in all of their pet programs, rename a few after cutting that same program and then send it back to the president. From there he can sign it, or veto it which usually would lead to a government shutdown. The budget process is lengthy and often times combative. But the bottom line is Congress shares just as much blame as the president maybe even more..

rolltide3's picture

I posted links showing Obama programs. His not congress. Dude no one in 30 years remember congress it's obama. So look at bush and his tenure just few years ago. It's not congress tenure and debt it's Bush tenure and debt. He is the leader the man in charge. It's his reign not congress. When he's the leader and how the country goes is viewed by his success or failure. No one goin say hey that republic congress made the national debt in 50 years.there goin say Obama tenure and the national debt did this lol. Every president had congress. So every failure every president is bc of congress? If one president can use ,it they all can. I loved the bulls bro but I look back at the six championship and I don't say man luc lonley won those games. I say Michael Jordan the leader of the team won those game and of course he had help but it's Jordan that gets all the credit. Whether u like it or not the term of Obama will be judged by what happens whether or not it's his fault that's how it works.

Pale's picture

Are you sure you are an American? LMAO. Read the link and learn a little how this government really works. SMFH

Whether u like it or not the term of Obama will be judged by what happens whether or not it's his fault that's how it works.

And the reason that is is because people (just like you) never paid attention in civics class and never payed attention to even how this government works. I rest my case...

rolltide3's picture

I know how the government works I'm not dumb like u keep saying I am and im an american. I'm saying people don't view it that way.all the success goes to the president or failure gets put on the president. If it deserved or not. That's how people view it. Okay another example let's bring up teddy roosevelt. Now we all can say things about his tenure but give me a break if u remember what congress did during his tenure(could u name five people in congress during this time without google). People view the president tenure success or failure on what happens during that time. It's that simple no one in a 100 years teaching about Obama in school will be breaking down congress for eight years and saying it's congress fault for Obama having the largest debt in any presidency at this time. It rest squarely on his shoulders in history

Pale's picture

I don't give a damn about view. It is simplistic. You now even know yourself it simply isn't the total picture. Why are you still arguing? It's over.

rolltide3's picture

Fair enough

ballsack's picture

I' m not sure these terrorist attacks had an impact on this proposal as it probably was made way ahead but it sure is more likely to pass now....
http://ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/13965
Less guns, less opposition. EU leaders, burn in hell.

shawn0712's picture

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgi9tz3IZWQ
This one is worth a watch to understand how we got here, and a pretty decent explanation of why it won't end any time soon.

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rolltide3's picture

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

I can put up countless others saying obama a muslim Obama has admitted he's a Muslim for pale

kodiakGRRL's picture

the war is coming Syrians or not ... the terrorists who blew up the trade center were from Saudi Arabia ... one of our closes allies.. lol.. we shouldn't let anyone in the country close the boarders .... fyi did any of you see the statistics that the Mexicans are leaving here faster than they are sneaking in ?

Pale's picture

Yes I saw that and us I totally believe it. Legions of them went back after 2008 as well. Reason being Mexicos economy has been improving and the cartel wars are not as intense as they were. Plus at home they don't have the whole hating on immigrants issue .

kodiakGRRL's picture

They OWN us ...

Pale's picture

We have been paying down them bonds at very rapid clip for some reason lately. Most likely it is them cashing out, I am not sure but I recall just recently reading an article about it on one of the financial sites

Pale's picture

The link didn't work for Viking either. I found it anyway and the disclaimer below the video says it all. And I am in agreement with everyone about not wanting the Syrians here. Just the rest is bullshit.

rolltide3's picture

Does this link work for u rusty. I have also seen him live say it

Pale's picture

No you didn't... Seriously Rusty, if he had actually done it and admitted it we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

Pale's picture

You didn't put up anything. It just goes to you tube, and please don't waste our time with peoples fancy audio edits either.

rolltide3's picture

It works for me bro he's claimed to.be a Muslim 50 times lol. Click on it again it works. This is his interviews some from CNN and other news where he says all what I've been saying

Pale's picture

No he has not, lol. Read the snopes link. It was one time and taken totally out of context and ran with by the likes of you apparently.

Pale's picture

Prove it Steve. Where a kid went to kindergarten is not much bro. In his adult life, show us the mosque he belonged to and and real solid evidence. There is none. On the other hand there is a ton of evidence of him going to a christian church... hmm. Again, it is all bullshit fairy tales anyway

Pale's picture

Ok, I will humor you. No I have not seen his wedding ring. WTF does that have to do with anything? It is not uncommon that dudes don't wear a ring.

Pale's picture

Both of these articles are blogs and neither of them really is breaking any new ground here. Where is the mainstream media or even non-US mainstream like BBC? The dude claims to be a Christian and we have nothing to prove otherwise. AND IT DOESN"T FUCKING MATTER! One year and he is out.

rolltide3's picture

Now we agree on something Lmao. Let's hope he's out in a year I'm have doubts that will happen

rolltide3's picture

Lmao that's funny

Pale's picture

LMAO! I am not even going down that road.

rolltide3's picture

Awe really u ain't goin to bite lmfao

rolltide3's picture

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=XE9mZCRX2mg

Here another watch them he says it over and over all on different speaches. Watch these and tell me he's not muslim

Pale's picture

It is fake..http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/foxvideo.asp

There are plenty of legit things to not like about the guy, but this isn't one of them