Can I get an Amen?
I am perplexed.
Look, I saw some guy post up blood work recently. He was running a gram of test a week and his blood work showed that his T-levels were in the mid-2000 range. That's pretty low. Now personally, I was really grateful that he took the time to post up his bloods because I am going to avoid that lab for sure. When I put up my blood work, I was on 500mg Test C alone for 5 weeks and was around 3500.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING WITH ALL OF THIS!?
Not everyone, but what seems like the majority of people on here are so concerned with the quality. Why is it when someone puts up a progress pic then, do they get up-voted more than someone who has proven that their gear is or isn't effective? I want to make this perfectly clear, I don't give a truckload of fucks who has what karma. This is a matter of reputability. Now you got some guys around here who contribute to this site, help people, and generally make eroids a better place with less rep and some jag-off who has never contributed but posted up a pic of some dense muscle and all of the sudden he's more reputable than the other guy. I just feel like priorities are askew. By all means give credit where credit is due - I just think that shit is misleading sometimes. Mexy posted up the new era for eroids not too long ago. That's where my head is at with all of this. I'm not here to be another person bitching about rep power. We all saw what happened when those mass spec tests came through recently and an up and coming source was exposed. Afterall, this is what I am here for - to do this shit safely and not waste money on bunk gear in the process and one way that I can do that is by encouraging everyone to get blood work and posting that shit for the world. I don't have a mass spec analysis machine or whatever in my spare bedroom. I do have labcorp down the street though. Just sayin'
now, can I get an amen??
I'm gonna stop talking about it
I'm just gonna be about it
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Yeah I see your point. I think it is because you have such a multitude of people really with different goals. For me if I see anyone who has made progress I like to up vote them regardless of their field whether pro or not because it has been said over and over here "this is not a Bodybuilding site". Now that being said there are also very talented bodybuilders who are admired and respected by other up and coming bodybuilders and I also have no problem with that because they are inspiring those in that field.
One time a very well known and respected bodybuilder who outwardly looked spectacular came on here. But he had no respect for security or site rules also he really didn't help anyone that much other than posting pictures for his own ego imo. So I was not impressed in the least and I also didn't up vote his pictures. Than you take other pros like the mods Bodybuilder and Viking and in fact all the current Mods Nitti and Roid. They all are experts in their own areas but these men went far out of their way giving priceless counsel to so many and me as well through pms despite how busy they are. Now I up vote them every chance I get because what they have done for my health cannot be measured.
So I think it is really a case by case basis and depending on the clicks and groups that people roll in. for me I believe that as long as you contribute here to others needs whether it be aas & HGH usage or helping someone with personal issues or being positive and supporting everyone who is making progress and in their journey than you deserve good karma.
I am also with you on really liking source accountability and all the testing of gear! That for me is crucial to all of our health! There is a post that BFG did a while back on UGLs vs Pharma gear! To me I thought it was more evidence of his integrity because for all the sources of UGLs here that have to pay for the privilege of getting reviewed he put out there that none of them compared to pharmacy gear!
That was very good to see from the top knowing that he doesn't cater to sources for his own personal gain at the cost of Eroid's integrity.
So there are more people of this mindset than we probably know of:)
Awesome breakdown bro. I am going to look for that thread from BFG.
My whole approach here is that I would just like to see things like bloodwork encouraged more outside of 'something you need to do' in cycle advice. Mexy called out that people better not be calling gear fire unless they can back that up with bloods to prove it and I can't agree more. Rather than flame somebody for having high estro or other values off - let's +1 this guy for doing his due diligence.
Unfortunately, the only gear that bloods will measure directly is test. For everything else we need mass spec. We can only see effects of other compounds thru bloods. That's probably more info than we collectively had before though. It's something. And they guy submitting them will get advice based on facts at that point. It's a win, win.
Anyway. Good stuff man thanks for your input.
I agree with you completely. I also let Sexy know that as well the I thought it was a pioneer idea and would take this thing to a new level.
I am not aware of all the security loopholes myself but from what Mexy said his plans were it looked really tight to me. Hopefully in the near and soon future this will come to pass and we know who to give the credit to for this idea! Although I don't know how well the name SexyMexy will play in the history books as a founding father lol:P