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Testosterone question for those who cruise.

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So a bunch of you commented on a previous post about TRT. You changed my mind to just cruise or anyways I am going to try it out for a while. The question i have is do you just do the longer esters like Ethanate or Cypionate or would you do Test Prop like every two to three days. I am going to start off with 150mg a week and then get some blood work done. I went a couple weeks with no testosterone and I can't handle it I feel like shit.

CRAZY DOSER's picture

Testosterone Propionate isn’t really suitable for a long-term run (cruise). It’s intended for short cycles. Test C or Test E esters are better suited for your goals. Use it for 10 weeks, injecting 2 times per week. Get bloodwork 6–8 weeks after starting and pay attention to: total t, free t, estradiol, hematocrit, lipids, liver, kidney.

Pandateston's picture

Pick the ester you feel better on … that’s really what matters. You can microdose it, you can double or even triple the frequency, or you can just follow the half-life guidelines… at the end of the day, what’s important is keeping your testosterone levels stable.
Avoiding those big peaks and valleys is what really helps mitigate side effects. Some guys do great on cypionate, others swear by enanthate … personally, I’m an enanthate guy. But honestly? Testosterone is testosterone. The key is finding what keeps you feeling the best and sticking with a protocol that’s consistent.

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Aggieguy's picture

That makes sense, I personally have used both cypionate and Ethanate in mix testosterone so I think either will work for me. I will try twice a week and see how my levels are. I want to be around 1000 while cruising.

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NeverskipLegDay01's picture

If you’re consistent with one thing it doesn’t matter in the long run, you can use Prop if you pin 2-3x weekly what I would advise anyway, so you’re good.

SwolePumps's picture

Cyp or Entan will be fine for a cruise. Mondays and Thursdays or Tuesdays and Friday are good pin days. For me I’ve been on TRT for years so I blast and cruise. Pinning twice a week will keep your levels consistent vs once a week where it could drop off on the tail end.

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Aggieguy's picture

Do you take clomid or hcg when you are cruising?

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KodiakHyper_777's picture

HCG makes a world of a difference for me. Should read up on pregnenolone. if not taking hcg on cruise, I recc you take pregnenolone for that benefit. helps with clarity energy etc.

KodiakHyper_777's picture

cyp or enanthat every 3.5 days works well for me. you wont enjoy eod or ed pinning. also long esters allows for smoother levels of test vs peaks and drops/

Aggieguy's picture

How much do you take?

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KodiakHyper_777's picture

hey bro, I take TRT 150-175 a week with HCG 250iu x 3 a week. test is split 75mge3.5

Aggieguy's picture

Thanks man

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irongame427's picture

Definitely a long ester. Even they should be injected much more frequently than most recommend but most people feel fine on 2 shots a week and pinning ED or EOD gets old fast. Cyp is the standard for TRT but there’s nothing wrong with enanthate either if that’s what you got.

Did you do pct when you came off? Was that your first cycle? Staying on is a not a decision to be made lightly. But if you’ve been lifting for a long time, are dedicated to the lifestyle and plan on continuing to run cycles then it makes some sense to cruise and not continuously go through the ups and downs of cycling off, especially if you’re over 40. You need to stay on top of your bloodwork through as there are certain biomarkers that will not normalize in certain people if they don’t come off completely , specifically RBCs/hematocrit and lipids. The RBC issues can be particularly dangerous.

Aggieguy's picture

I was currently on PCT but kept feeling like crap and I feel weaker at the gym. My T levels before I did this last cycle was 372 which is low for me. I was going to do TRT but I couldn't wait long enough to see a doctor my insurance doesn't kick in until September. I am 42 and I do want to keep cycling. This last cycle made such an impression on me that people actually started complimenting me for the first time. I will for sure get blood work done, my HCT was high but I went and donated blood. My lipids have always been high but I will see the doc in September to get that under control.
I currently have a bottle of mixed Test with Ethan, Cyp and Prop 350mg so I have been breaking that down to use it up and then i have a bottle of Cyp 200mg.
Also I appreciate your knowledge and sharing it with me.

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