+ 4 Steroids...Or placebo?
I was reading an article that was of great interest, it was about steroids, effects and placebo.
Apparently they did a study on patients, giving them a placebo pill and telling them it was dbol. The ones that were given the fake dbol, broke their pr's and the ones that weren't given the pills remained the same.
What I'm trying to get at is, what if your "steroids", were in fact placebo. What if all the Gaines you have made, were all because you trained like hell?
If you gained 15-20 lbs after your cycle, only to realize that you weren't taking steroids, would you be completely upset? Of course you would be with the source, but if you "blew up", would you have more faith in yourself and not drugs?
Do you feel when your on cycle, you train like a mofo, just because you know your taking something? Do you remain with high intensity even when off cycle?
Your mind is a very powerful weapon and if you use it even when off drugs, your out come can be phenomenal!
Well here's the article http://gregnuckols.com/2014/02/26/steroids-dosage-and-the-placebo-effect/
Give it a read and let me know what you think. Oh and here's more placebo videos for shits and giggles.
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I really like this post bro. I train the exact same way if I'm on or if I'm off. I just go hard AF. I still can make gains when I'm off. The only real difference is that I make them more rapidly when I'm on.
That's pretty much it.
That's all due to this site btw. You guys have helped me go from "hard gainer" to "gainer" - juice or not.
It's true, keep killing it my dude. I'm like you, I go beast mode no matter what. Haha
late last year a guy we know kept hassling myself and a mate for steroids, he knew we were juicing, he is a fairly stocky lad, but he is quite dumb, we discussed everything with him etc told him the dangers and everything and still wanted to jump on, now he did not want to do anything for himself, he wanted us to pin him etc hes just plain dumb, anyway we came up with a preety stupid idea, but it worked, I had a bottle of p.c.t assist, its a natural over the counter " test booster", anyway, we decided to give him them and tell him they were dbol caps, we told him to take just two a day, even though the recommended dose was like 8 a day, we told him they are way too potent for that dose lol, anyway about a week later in the gym, he was pumping those weights, sweating it out, gritting his teeth and grunting away, he comes over and hes like damn bro, I love these dbol, im smashing everything and im up in weight, im eating like a beast and sleeping like a baby, 4 weeks later, hes like man this shit rocks, can you get me more, I love roids bhahaha, then we told him! he wasn't happy at all, but it made him stop going on about roids, he realised he didn't need them yet, placebo, he really is a dumb ass, took over 20 test to get his drivers license, he can bareley read or write, dropped out of school at 13, he has stupid looking skull and monster tttoos and a big mullet lol.
Haha you dirty dog. Haha
I like my monster tattoos AND my mullet tyvm.
You truly are a cruel man, lol
Great read. I have no doubt the placebo effect is real and quite potent.
But I really don't think the placebo effect would be as strong on more experienced users. When I had low T, then went on TRT the change in how I felt was incredible. And since it hit me 2 weeks earlier than my MD said it would I'm positive it was not placebo.
But if given a placebo now, after experiencing the real thing I think I would feel the difference. Also I really doubt my aging body (58 yrs old ) could muster up the resources to make me gain on a placebo the same way I gain on the real thing.
58 years old? You still have some juice left in ya. ;) The mind is powerful, there is no telling. Maybe plecebo viagra?
Lol, tried the placebo Viagra by a accident in Thailand when I bought bunk at a Thai drug store. Even with the best motivation in the world I got zero placebo effect.
RustyhookerThis forum is exactly why vets get agitated over "bunk gear" threats. Underdosed gear will still make you grow. But, that placebo effect of not "feeling" some magical change crushes dudes entire cycle. Also leads into IF they even killed it at gym prior to cycle.
Mind muscle connection is extremely potent. Nice read!
Thanks bro! My points exactly.
Dammit, now I'm questioning my shit, lo......l It's all in my head? The mind is a powerful thing. I think even when you know for a fact what you are injecting is quality the mind factor still plays a big role. For me when I'm on cycle I am focused and intense and feel every rep and pump. Is that the roids? Doubt it, it's my mind engaged knowing that my body is flowing with compounds that need to be properly utilized. The roids play the roll of protein synthesis, increased stamina, and recovery, yea you'll get more aggression due to the extra testosterone, but in the end if you can will it you can conquer it. Without the mind the body will fall behind...... no extra charge for the rhyme, I do it all the time, lol....
Lmfao at the last part!! The mind is a powerful tool/ if you don't use it then your a fool/ it's to be used not just in school/ I can rhyme too, now that's pretty cool! ; p
It was unintentional, but worked out nice.