I'm new to this site and I try to be the Christian man that I'm supposed to be. My desire would be to hand out advice freely on those topics where I can share from my own real experience so at least I'm giving something that's genuine.

It didn't take me long to realize, however, that that is not really helpful. When I respond to a very young man that is well, small, like 6' and 170 lbs who is trolling for info on Trenbolone and maybe tell him that he is small in a little bit of a sarcastic way, I know it hurts him. Quite frankly, I really don't know what else to do at this point. Do I really believe the young man has peaked before reaching 200 lbs? So, now, at 170 lbs., he needs steroids to grow and get stronger? He, for whatever reason, doesn't want to do the work and thinks Tren is gonna make him like the big guys at the gym.

Whatever happened to lift big and eat big? Squats? Deadlifts? So, I give the kid a mild ass chewing. Does that really bring me any pleasure? No. It just seems to me that many of the young folk coming to this website looking for roid cycle advice are small and weak and have no gym time. That's what is bothering me and maybe I'll come up with a better approach but right now I don't think a little smack down is so bad.

I understand your point of view. But here is mine and each man must answer to his own conscience, I will not help someone if I believe I am being complicit in is demise or possible demise. My help is "don't do it" if that is not good enough and he chooses to fuck himself up then he didn't want my help. He alone made the choice to refuse it and frankly I don't care afterwards if he hurts himself because it is self inflicted against good advice.

This is a huge problem today in this society and why many men are so pathetically emotionally week. Not because they have seen war and massive tragedy, but because they get their way and don't respect the word "NO!" Then after they get what they wanted and others enabled them to and the thing they wanted goes bad they pity themselves and blame others.

I tell you a story it will probably offend your sense of protecting others but to me it is the way of a greater protection. My son at 3 years old use to love to lay on the floor and pull the kitchen chair down on top of himself. Now of course the chair never reached him because his mother or sisters or other would run and grab the chair every time. Now he was told over and over again after they rescued him don't do that again. Now I was deployed at the time and I had come home after a tour when I saw what they were doing I shook my head. So the next time he did it I told them no one better stop that chair of course my wife cringed and so did my son's sisters. The chair fell ever so slow on him and pinned his little arrogant butt to the ground. The only thing that hurt him was his pride because he was stuck. I left him there for about five minutes as he cried until he stopped. I then pick up the chair and said you were told not to do that you did it to yourself no one owes to help you when you are so willing to hurt yourself. he hugged me and never did it again. My son is now an Officer in the Navy as well as a Navy Seal he raises his kids the same way.

So yes my help will be this don't do this but if you think you are man enough to go against this good advice then be man enough to live with the consequences good or bad.

I will not help anyone who chooses to do it there way when I know it is the stupid way. I will not for a second compromise myself. Because think of this if you do help the person out and it goes bad anyways because the real answer is "Don't do it!" then you share in their destruction.

You do have my respect for being bold and posting your view. Even if I disagree I respect the participation and also we both have the same desire for the young ones just a different method of approaching them.

so far so good uncle vike sits back listening to dolphin and whale music...... aaaaah but things never go that smooth for this MOD..... only in his fkn dreams.

I hate the "they gonna do it anyways" mentality.
Say you had a 16 year old daughter that was thinking about trying Heroin. So she goes to your brother the heroin addict and tells him that she wants to use heroin. Would you rather him say: "she gonna do it anyways, it's better that I give it to her than some dude that's gonna make her suck his cock for it." Or would you rather he spend some time telling her how heroin and ruined his life and refusing to even entertain the idea of giving her heroin?
I've seen numerous occasions where experienced bros helped young guys see the light on the damage that they are doing.

You're 26 and on your 6th cycle according to your other post, so I'm guessing you were in the early starters category? Maybe this taints your perspective on the subject?

With respect, you're not yet in a position to know what damage you may or may not have done to yourself by using gear at a young age as your endocrine system is barely fully developed at 26.

I understand the sentiment, it's an often held debate and one we've been over many times. We, as a community don't support cycling for youngsters. I agree most of the time they'll do it anyway, but cosigning it isn't the right thing on a moral ethical level.

I started AAS at 39, you will never see me give advice to these kids, other than not to do it. Hell, if it were up to me you would be showing proof of age to a mod that you are over 25 to even log in..

its always the youngsters fighting for the the right to early TRT and don't give an ass lick about the wisdom of those who already fucked shit up... you are not asking anything you are telling us what you are going to do regardless of what compounded dedcades of experinece tells you... You want me to share my experience with you about how to properly shoot heroin while I'm at it LMFAO!

Hang around bro... i,ll get BFG to slap a PRO TAG on you and we can put you straight to work in the steroid/cycles forums.

But first!.. hows about some STATS and CYCLE HISTORY from yourself to prove your credentials for being our brand new GURU protege ?? and maybe a picture or 3 to prove your AAS, DIETS, and TRAINING protocols are up to point.

you see, the thing is, even if they are given perfect advice, they are still likely to fuck themselves up, because they could be 17 years old!!!

Theres a reason behind the way things work around here.