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Dbol and liver toxicity

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Been getting a lot of different opinions on what are the best "liver support" on orals such as dbol. As far as me, I've always used Milk Thistle and Liv-52 but it seems people more and more talk about the benefits of ALA and NAC. Now obviously nothing can actually get rid of the toxicity and damage but if it can be lowered as much as possible then that's a win for me. At what dosages would ALA and NAC be beneficial? Ive heard things that something as low as 50mg of ALA can provide protection but then you do research and find that for medical uses doctors may advice up to 600-1,200 milligrams a day and some steroid users advice that as well. now that is a HUGE jump if you asked me. Any help would be appreciated. What do you guys use? Im trying to take as many precautions as I can. Thanks

BULKING24's picture

hey mate i always use while on orals lipid stabil/liver stabil from molecular nutrition always keeps me in check also look into white tea and green tea they have great antioxidents in them both heres a table below which i had saved in my computer.

Silymarin (milk thistle extract)

500 mg daily

Relieves congestion of the liver, spleen, and kidneys

B-complex (must contain folic acid and vitamin B12)

50 mg, three times daily

Helps to metabolize proteins, fats, and carbohydrates

Vitamin C

1,000 mg, three times daily

Helps to metabolize fats; those who have kidney problems should check with a health care practitioner before taking vitamin C supplements

Alpha-lipoic acid

300 mg, three times daily

Attacks free radicals (waste products created when the body turns food into energy) and relieves stress on the liver

Coenzyme Q10

100 mg, three times daily or more

Neutralizes free radicals and helps to reduce cholesterol

Curcumin

500 mg, three times daily

Stimulates production of bile and facilitates emptying of the gallbladder

L-taurine

500 mg, three times daily

Prevents or breaks down gallstones

Dandelion tea

2 cups (500 mL) or more daily

Increases bile flow

burdock tea

2 cups (500 mL) or more daily

Removes accumulated waste products via the kidneys, skin, and mucous membranes

bchisandra tea

2 cups (500 mL) daily

Relieves symptoms of hepatitis and protects the liver

vhman's picture

Do you take all of these or is this just a list of some different things you CAN take? Hopefully it's a list and your not taking this all at once (I'm sure your not). Thanks for the info.

BULKING24's picture

lol nah mate i pick and pull what i need depending on what im takeing and what i think would benefit me most its a must aswell to keep the kidneys in healthy condition you see alot of people talking about liver but orals also effect kidneys.

rsp2000's picture

Ignoring the Stats question and history - prevention and carefully ancillary supplements are key

For all / any orals take

ALA, NAC, Liv 52 and Silybin [the major active from milk thistle : silymarin]

ALA : 1000mg
NAC 1g
Liv 52 - per dosing
Silybin 750mg

Theres a few newer supplements around for detok and regeneration - but the above is tried and tested

ctmz's picture

Thanks brother will incorporate