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Need some advice, been thinking of getting on Test and masteron or deca.

currently 38YRS old. 195 LB with 23% body fat from inbody scans at local gym

test levels are at 430

Thoughts, insight, advice.

BigDdaddy's picture

If your gonna do it, run a trt dose at 150mg while maintaining diet and exercise till you get down around 14-16%bf. At that point you will be more ready to run a cycle. Make sure you have ai's on hand even at the trt dose because with 20+%bf your going to aromatize. Make sure your getting regular blood work done as well so you can dial in your estro and honestly so you can make sure whatever brand Test you go with is legit these days. I'd go with Enanthate or Cypionate pinning 75mg Mon and Fri. For now I'd increase reps and lower the weight slightly. Focus on getting your bf down and worry about mass and strength when your able to cycle. You'll get there faster this way. Make sure your hitting cardio because as you age it becomes more and more important for longevity. Great job on the weight loss so far as well man!

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Khandum's picture

Your levels are only gonna get worse over time. I would say if you really wanna hop on Test, start at a lower dose maybe 150-200mg each week, split into multiple shots. In my opinion it would help out a lot if you dieted first and got lean, then retest your T levels, they will most likely go up. Idk what your goals are though, is it to feel good, vanity or both?

trailmanghost's picture

yes started october 1st at 240 LB so down 40 LB. now wasnt to gain some muscle back. Didint lose much but i would like to have a better physique. Im just not sure with a high body fat percentage currently is still suitable for me.

0newheelup's picture

Congrats my brother. 40lbs in 6months of diet and training isn't bad at all. Figure ur muscle mass has gone up while bf has gone down. I'd keep doing what ur doing. For the AAS, If trt is a concern of urs, do it through a doc so u can dial in how ur body reacts with the test. If it's just to fast tract a better beach body, dont add all the other steroids yet, test only...

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Khandum's picture

I don’t think he would be able to get trt from a doctor. His current levels are already too high for that, and if he keeps at the diet and the lifting, his levels could also even go a tad bit higher. Doctors are kinda gay about trt, they want your ass in the gutter first before you can even get shit from them.

0newheelup's picture

I agree with ya 100. TRT can be a headache. Back when I started Trt I was in the gutter. Had to get rid of the doc i was seeing and find one who believed. It was a little bit more taboo. But now, it seems all the docs have jumped on that train.

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trailmanghost's picture

thanks to both of you. The way i see it if im putting myself on TRT (dr or not) wouldnt it be most beeneficial to run a 16 cycle of the AAS with it and gain the enjoyment of a better physique too. or am i getting sold the fake social media lifestyle. I really am trying to decipher if at 22-24% body fat getting on either of the mentioned would even bring me "great" results. Currently weight training 3-4X a week muscle groups broken down (push/pull/legs) roughlt 12-15 sets per day (target range 8 reps per set, where reps6-8 are difficult to complete based on difficulty of weight. my goal in terms of weight training is def more strength and more muscle mass they tend to go hand in hand.

0newheelup's picture

There a big difference btw trt and running a cycle. Khandum is correct about dropping more body fat and let ur natural levels really shine. If u cycle aas, especially with the nors, ur hpta will not recover to its potential.

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Skinnyboy63's picture

You would want to get your body fat below 15% before you run an actual cycle I would just go on trt like 150 mg a week split into two to three shots and when you do get it below 15% and you want to run a cycle if it's your first cycle just up your test to 500 mg a week and get that dialed in first

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Milfpounder's picture

Yea what you said. 15% and primed to grow

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