+ 6 Quad Shots A Love/Hate Relationship + A Powerful Warning!
I originally posted this four years ago and thought it was helpful. Many new members didn't have the chance to read it; so I thought it worth re-posting.
Please don't forget to read the WARNING at the end of this article! It could save you from major problems with a Quad shot!
Doctors don't know a lot of things; especially when it comes to anabolic drugs. However, I have to give then their due when it comes to injections.
Docs usually choose the glutes first, and the delts second. They rarely but sometimes will use leg injections eg thigh, outer Quad, and venrol-gluteal.
Your Quads are your largest and strongest muscle. Immediately following a 2 cc injection of oil and esters when you stand up you are subjecting the muscle to 200 pounds of your weight forcing contractions and stress.
So, most bodybuilders report normal pain and soreness for a few days even with a clean injection, Some report less. In my case the higher I go, the less pain, and the lower the more...as well as restricted mobility.
So of course I hate Quad shots for these reasons. However I love Quad shots for the following reasons.
Since these are the largest muscles they provide the biggest area for you to inject. If you can work Quad injections in properly, you can use them for quite a bit without missing a leg workout while giving other over-injected areas a well needed rest.
When doing a Quad shot you have complete control, You can sit comfortably, pick the area, and after proper alcohol swabbing, you are in command. After inserting the needle you can easily aspirate the syringe which is nearly impossible while doing a self glute shot. It gives me peace of mind when injecting Tren.
It is also easier to control injection speed using a nice slow steady pace. Then after removing the needle, it is easier to properly massage the area with a swab helping disperse the oil.
WARNING
We all love our trusted suppliers, and overall they do a wonderful job for us. However, we have all gotten that bottle from a good source that may be too strongly dosed and causes major PIP and swelling. In some rare cases abscesses, It's no fun but its part of the risk of what we do.
So,,,NEVER open a new vial even if it is the same compound from the same supplier.and do a Quad shot, because if your going to have issues; it is best to have them in the glutes where it will be more localized and easier to contain and treat. Once a new vial has been used without issue in the glutes it then has potential for Quads with hopefully no issues other than normal pain.
For better understanding of PIP, Lumps, Bumps, and Abscesses and how to deal with and treat them please visit the following link:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/injection-pip-lumps-bum...
I made that mistake from one of out most trusted sources here for years! I liked him very much personally and professionally, He was a top rated source for a long time, and I never had any issues with his products. He is no longer with us...so some of you might figure out who it was; although I will not supply a name.
I was using Tren E 250 on a regular basis at high dose so I always had extra vials on hand. I finished a vial on a shot, When it came time for my next injection I opened another vial, Everything looked fine. The only difference I could see was that the Tren was a much deeper Orange, but totally clear,
So, I figured maybe it would be a bit stronger, but great! I was due for a Quad shot so in went a bit more than 1 2/4 cc's of Tren and about 1/3 cc Test E. Keeping the Test low for cutting,
The injection went fine and all felt ok until the next day. The next day I knew I had issues and it was scary. My left Quad began to swell, was incredibly painful and really had limited mobility. I could not touch my right foot with my left foot. That's one way to know you have a Quad abscess forming.
Very luckily for me I was taking Biaxin 500 mg 2x/day for a sinus issue. Without it; I cannot begin to imagine what would have happened.
I could see that the Quad was trying to form a long oval shaped abscess on the top part of the muscle. However, the area was flat and hard and unable to centralize as it would in a glute or delt. If it was lanced although it would be painful most likely little would come out but perhaps a mixture of blood, some oil, and a little pus.
In order for an abscess to be successfully drained it must be ripe enough to allow all of the infected material to be removed. That was impossible here. Redness was flowing around the area and this is cellulitis which can be very dangerous.
When the infection cant centralize and be walled off, it tends to spread! This is why Quad injections are much more dangerous! If you have developed and hard Quads this is also more likely to happen in my opinion.
I began taking hot showers three times a day, allowing the hot water to hit that red area as much as possible! Luckily for me it began to work, The redness slowly became a little but less each day. Had it not worked; I would have headed to an ER immediately! Anyone who has this problem should use good judgement and if there is any question at all; SEEK MEDICAL HELP!!!!
Although the cellulitis was reducing, the pain and the lack of mobility were very, very slow to improve. Each day I was able to move the leg a little bit more, but not much. Full mobility did not return for a long time!
Here's a very sad fact, Infections destroy healthy tissues! My Quad was very cut and defined on top on of both legs. Unfortunately, where that long oval shape was, my leg was soft, and much muscle fiber gone!
Once fibers are gone there is no way to replace them! With proper training I'm sure I can see some improvement, but my left Quad will never be or look the same as it did , or the way my right one appears.
This I very hard for me to deal with, but as I said overall I have to consider myself very, very lucky! When you read the other link about abscesses you will realize that therer is always muscle and healthy and tissue loss with an abscess., However in a glute it will be less and no one but you will know or be able to see it,
So PLEASE test a new Vial in your glutes and if all is well, then it should be ok for Quads when necessary! Don't make the mistake I did! IT WAS STUPID AND AVOIDABLE!
Many of you understandably be thinking...the vial was fine and this guy didn't keep everything sterile during the injection process, However, I have given thousands of IM shots to myself, and patients while working in the medical field!
I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN OR GIVEN ANYONE AN ABSESS.....NOT ONE! I have read stories from other steroid users who were shocked when they got an abscess, because they too claim to be so meticulous keeping a sterile environment. I tend to believe most of them.
Of course there is one way to prove this: I probably still have the vial, A lab can look at it and see what it in there. I believe they will find some form of contamination. Bear in mind that it is totally clear so whatever bacteria, particles etc are microscopic.
I've been on this site for a long time, and repeat that our sources in the top ten are excellent! They really do good work. So this is so out of the norm, it shouldn't be an issue. It never has been before...but be careful!
Your comments and opinions are welcome of course!
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I appreciate the post and the insight as it relates to this issue. I however have a counterpoint.
On a personal note. For standard injections glute and delt are the norm.
That being said, my recommendation would be that if you are not a daily injector of multiple compounds nor a professional top tier bodybuilding I would avoid quad injections altogether.
Quad injections are truly Russian roulette. My experience has shown that it is a statistical inevitability that something at some point will go terribly wrong. I say this because everyone I have ever known to do or love pinning gear into quads , every single one has at one point or another had a potentially catastrophic situation occur due to an errant shot.
Simply food for thought
I do agree. I will only do Quads as a last resort!
I read this the first time it was posted. And since I read it I have not used the first pin out of a new vial on any spot other than glutes. If I'm getting down there I'll skip glutes for a few days til I crack that new one open. Then first two pins out of the vial I hit glutes and will know if we have an issue before hitting any other spots. This has saved me once as I didn't realize that the source changed carrier oils. And had a bad reaction. It was easier to deal with with a sore ass.
No homo +2
I'm glad it helped you! Better to have issues in the gluten for sure!
My first cycle i pinned in my quads. my knees hurted like hell i work in the construction and when i sitted on my knees i couldnt get up again i never pinned again in.the quads always chest easy and simple..
Someone shared this with me, I think it would probably be appropriate to pass it on again.
http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm
Thanks bro for the repost it is definitely a good read.
Yes ty. I have seen this site before and it is useful for sure!
I have learned to enjoy pinning quads once I kept them in rotation it got easier and easier for me! But I love pinning delts and glutes!
Quads have always been hit and miss for me. Delts, glutes and pecs are my favorite spots.
Gluten are always best! I like traps as mine are big, but debts kill me. Can't move my arm for a day.
RustyhookerI love quads! About 5 different spots per leg in a rotation. But yes, pirate leg can suck
By far my favorite spot to pin. I hit three different muscles. Rarely do I feel anything. I did the rookie test 500 thing years ago, but that shit hurt anywhere you put it.
I’m greatful I don’t have the complications many do, because it’s by far the easiest muscle group to hit and control. Delts these days are the left arm pulling the right elbow into position to hit the left at an inferior angle. Glutes are standing, and pecs are decent, but seated quads are the most relaxed group I can hit.
I’ve been trying to build up courage to do calves, but I’m genetically blessed there. Most of my life has been spent busting my ass trying to make the rest of my body match.
RustyhookerCalves scare me....
I love quads,glutes,traps and biceps.Hate delts I’m probably the only one!
Yup; pirate leg is no fun! As I said Quads to give you freedom of area, but ya gotta be careful. After my experience I never start a new vial on Quads. I figure if it was good in a different area then less chance for issues.
RustyhookerSafety first big bro!
Long ago i posted 'taste testing' prop. Next thing ya know theres a dozen forums on eating, tasting and how taste proves if prop is real.
Boneheads did not read HOW or WHAT i wrote after taste testing was mentioned. Prop cold, not warmed and into the spot that gives pip if not skilled....Quads.
But back then the sources couldnt really brew a pip free prop until a handfull of folks popped up that revolutionized gear imo. Hitting a prop 200 with very lil pip. Times have changed for the better in most cases. Now if we can get this board filled with blood tests....
Yes. times have surely changed for the better with MCT oil, thinner gauge needles, and slin pins etc. The gear has gotten better too. I tend to prefer high dosed get as less oil to inject. Don't notice that much difference in PIP.
I saw an article awhile back. Where dave palumbo says DONT DO QUAD INJECTIONS ...
They are tricky!