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“Abscess” is not a good word in the activity we have chosen. However, I assure you it is a reality and there are many horror stories out there if you care to look. I'll include mine at the end along with a WARNING on how you can avoid what happened to me! Live and learn, And, I was very lucky considering!!! Here's the link it deals with Quad abscesses; a much more serious problem! Or click on it at the conclusion of this article. Ty

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However, lets begin with PIP a topic discussed here and on every bodybuilding forum in the world. One can not expect to stick a sharp object into various parts of their anatomy injecting 1-3 cc of oil containing irritating esters, BA, and BB and expect to escape with no pain.

We all know a 200mg shot of Test Prop is going to cause issues! A water based shot depending on the compound can range from painful to pain free!

Rather than repeat a lot of what I've read here on warming the oil, massaging it in...lets try to focus on a few things that have helped me and I hope can help you.

Glute shots were really difficult for me, and I did have a lot of PIP with many, However over the years I have found ways to improve the process and things have become much easier and less painful.

First I learned to divide the glutes into four areas on each side that are injectable. We know the outer right quadrant is ideal, but in reality it is insufficient as it will not heal fast enough for the next injection.

So, on each side I have four injectable areas far enough apart to minimize pain, but good enough to be effective! Each side has upper middle and upper right, middle center, right of center. Middle literally means “Middle” as anything lower will endager the possibility of hitting the sciatic nerve!

It gets rotated as follows; Injection 1: Right upper Quadrant
Injection 2: Left upper Quadrant
Injection 3: Right outer Quadrant
Injection 4: Left Outer Quadrant
Injection 5: Right middle center
Injection 6: Left middle center
Injection 7: Right middle outer
Injection 8: Left middle outer

Then Repeat The Sequence

The theory being that each area will provide proper absorption, and be healed enough by the time you get back to it, Not overtones glutes are the same as you know, so you have to take this into consideration when planning it out.

FYI my glutes are not particularly large so I imagine it would be better if they were. Also, when doing the upper areas if you go a little to high and get a post injection lump it may travel a bit onto the pelvic area.

I've had this just a couple of times, and seen others who have as well. It will usually simply get smaller each day until gone. Anyway it's above bone and won't enter anything internally. Just keep pressure off it when sleeping etc.

Also, when I first began self injecting glutes I had lots of horrible injections, but then I realized after a time that I was inflicting most of the damage. Besides not being to aspirate which makes me a lil nervous when using Tren, you tend to look in the mirror and everything is left right reversed.

So, when I thought the syringe was tilted left I then compensated by what I though was moving it right, when in reality I was pushing it further left tearing up muscle and inflicting damage!

I have finally trained myself after inserting the needle to NEVER look in the mirror! I look straight ahead and concentrate on where the hand I am injecting with really is! It takes practice, but if you master it you will be thankful for sure!

Another mistake many bodybuilders make is injecting the oil too quickly! We all want the shot to be over so it's a natural tendency, Besides causing more PIP, rapid injections can possibly add to getting “Tren Cough”. Not a pleasant experience.

The oil you choose is also an important factor. Many bodybuilders like Grapeseed oil because it goes in slow and smooth, Well of course it does, because it's thick as Sh*t! The first time I tried to draw it into a 23 gauge needle it was like using 30 weight Motor Oil!

Although oil itself does not cause PIP, the thicker it is; the more pressure against surrounding tissue. Pressure leads to swelling not pain, and isn't the best idea for absorption and healing. The thinner and lighter the oil; the better for you!

Of course a thin oil with too much ester, BA, and BB will give you issues, but a thick oil may create less pain, as you distribute X amount of pain over a wider area it tends not to be as intense. However, remember you are paying a price for this down the road as the damage done internally from the thicker oil will take it toll.

I prefer more pain, and less chance of danger to internal tissue paid for on subsequent injections, I guess it is a matter of choice and opinion.

Now that we've covered PIP, let's move on to lumps, bumps, how to treat them and when a lump may be an abscess.

A normal lump or bump after a shot will be painful or tender, but if you keep weight off it, and take HOT showers it will help the pain, and tend to soften it up. It should begin to diminish in a few days or less if you shower it a couple of times a day. The water should be Hot, but not scalding!!!

Hot water draws blood to the area, which will help heal it, and if it is an abscess it will help wall it off internally to prevent spreading and septicemia. How can you tell if this is an abscess? Sometimes it's difficult, but it can be obvious too.

ALWAYS HAVE ANTIBIOTICS ON HAND!

The antibiotics usually most effective for this are:

BACTRUM DS and SEPTRA DS

KEFLEX

BIAXIN 500 MG.

Begin taking them if you think it may be an abscess. Early treatment will help, although it will rarely resolve it. If the swelling is a bit warm, but not growing quickly, you may have a little time to determine if it is abscess.

However, if it is growing rapidly, and you have a fever or feel sick get to an ER immediately!!!! Don't be a Hero! Don't let a friend stick 15 gauge needle in it either!!!!!!

Bear in mind that right now we are talking about abscesses of the Glutes, Delts, Pecs, etc, but not Quads! Quads are a much more complicated issue with the discussion following.
Assuming you arrive at the ER, an Ultra Sound is performed, it is an abscess, and the Dr. want to drain it. The way it should be drained should depend on how deep under the skin the infection and pocket of pus is.

Most Drs will likely want to use the 15 gauge needle mentioned above, or lance it, place a drain and packing in it. In many cases this is not necessary, and in some it is. If it is really deep there is no choice!

However as I mentioned above if you are sure that it is close to the skin subcutaneously all this can be avoided if you can convince the Dr, Convincing doctors is not always easy. A subcutaneous abscess close to the skin can easily be reached and drained simply by having the Dr, pop it with a Scalpel, and squeezing all the goo out!

This is actually more effective, as well as less intrusive. The only problem is that the incision from the scalpel will close rapidly after draining and the abscess will refill. However, it will be much thinner pus and blood.

If you can convince the Doc to allow to remain for an hour or so and he will agree to reopen it; it will likely be the end of this abscess if you continue your antibiotic regimen.

If the doc, will not allow you to stay for a second draining, get home ASAP and get into a HOT tub of water. The hot water softens it, and will tend to possibly re-open the incision, allowing you to squeeze the remaining pus and blood out, It will be thinner as I mentioned.

Once again I repeat, in order for this method to be used the infection cannot be too deep!

When I was 21, I suddenly awoke with a large subcutaneous abscess on the left glute. Believe it or not it was not cause by a needle or steroids! It originated from an ingrown hair. YEP!

I immediately called my Surgeon who was a great Doc, but he was out of town for a week. YIKES! I called other local surgeons and when I described the issue and they all refused to do it in their office and were talking about drains, IV antibiotics and packing! Although there are times when this is necessary I know this was not one of those times.

My Dr returned the following week. I waited because I was on antibiotics and it was stable although not going to resolve by itself for sure! I went to his office. On the table, three shots of Lidocaine, numb, pop, and he drained it!

Back to the tub where it re-opened; end of story!
One more time I will repeat this warning: If you feel sick, the abscess is deep, it is getting worse quickly; just do what the Dr says! It can be what's called a funneling abscess which is eating tissue deeper instead of working towards the surface!

Now lets move on to a very unpleasant subject Quad abscesses! You can read my article on Quad shots at the following link along with a WARNING you should pay heed to! An abscessed Quad is very bad, can be dangerous, and disastrous.

Your comments and opinions are welcomed!

It makes the above reading look like a simple problem,

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