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What do you guys like for a cycle focused on strength gains and not much else. I've been natty for some years now but plan on competing and want to get some gains without jumping a weight class
I am prone to high blood pressure and gyno which is part of why I haven't done any cycles in some years, im also pushing 40
Usually I use masteron for AI but with it seeming more rare was considering EQ and maybe anadrol? Any advice is appreciated
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Tren plus anadrol. If I was gonna go to a meet that’s what I’d be on. I haven’t found a better combo for me for strength. But I’m only a couple years in with gear so take that as you will. My bp was sky high tho. But hit PRs that I thought was fantasy for me
Let's see what the guy who can literally tolerate anything and still feel fine has to say @5percent4life LMAO
Lmao. Halo msten anadrol. The peak strength trifecta lmao. Sust tren deca for 12 weeks, 6 weeks left add anadrol 4 weeks left add msten 3 weeks left add halo
I keep seeing guys doing this - running 100mg of Adrol and adding 40mg of Halotestin. How the Fuck do you tolerate that?? Do you not get acid reflux or any nausea from those 2 together?
900mg-1200mg sust, 600mg deca, 300mg tren a or 400mg tren e then add 50mg anadrol 6 weeks out, 30mg msten 4 weeks out, then halo 1 week 20mg 1 week 30mg 1 week 40mg. Worked amazing for me
Out of interest bud - What do you normally cruise on in between cycles? Do you tend to train around RPE8 off cycle - or go balls out?
Just do little 8 week things like prop/sust and npp or sust and an oral. Just so many injuries ive shrunk alot my last cycle log on here didnt start because the bunk gear issue but when these packs land ill be doing a log. I have to get back right. How have you been bro
I'm alright mate, just rejigged my training as I was going to hard in sessions and trying to include extra exercises that I just cannot recover from in time for next session, resulting in my training frequency becoming too low and not being able to hold strength enough. As soon as I encorporate BBing stuff I look great but lose strength in the big lifts its a fucker lol
That’s a straight-up beast mode strength setup, Big.
It worked forsure. Takes its toll, but it works
Always keep a bottle of tums in my bag
With those orals I would keep 2 bottles holy shiit
One on the nightstand, one in my bag and one at work lmao. It was the msten to be honest. Msten and madol always did it to me bad
MSten is one that I still have never tried - one of the older prohormones isn't it. Though I have seen a number of UGL's start to make it now. Whats it like - is it wet or dry acting?
Dry just a shit ton of strength, madol is the wet one
I bet buddy
Big, I’d keep it simple and joint-friendly, especially at your age and with BP/gyno in the picture.
Base: Test (moderate, not crazy)
Add: Deca (great for joints + strength carryover)
Now the tricky part is your gyno/BP sensitivity… (are you taking Telmisartan or anything else?)
Dbol/Adrol will definitely boost strength fast, but:
Dbol … converts to estrogen so higher gyno risk
Adrol … no aromatization, but can still trigger gyno-like issues + spike BP
Since you mentioned that, I’d lean more toward:
Test + Deca + low/moderate EQ
EQ can help keep E2 a bit more controlled without smashing it with an AI, which is useful for powerlifting since slightly higher E2 meaning better performance, joints, and leverage.
Then if you tolerate it well, you could sprinkle low-dose Dbol or Adrol pre-workout and assess response instead of running it daily.
Main thing for you IMHO:
Keep BP in check (priority #1)
Don’t let E2 run wild, but don’t crash it either
Watch early gyno signs … don’t wait (keep ralox or tamoxifen on hand)
But honestly, I’d like to hear what Big @press1 says too… he’s got a better handle on the powerlifting side. I’m just going off my experience.
I agree with Panda on everything he said. Anadrol is king for powerlifting from my experience (I’ve been nationally ranked). Dbol will cause e2 spikes with even less strength gains. My cycle when I powerlifted was Anadrol 50mg to 150mg (only very close to meet at that dose) a relatively conservative amount of test, 5-700mg. This was years ago, if I were to go back I would’ve added some npp or tren to the mix, but I still won my weight class regardless and I was kinda young (24ish) so better off it worked out the way it did. Only thing is with a powerlifting diet plus high dose drol, blood pressure can be an issue. Be careful
Ty. No I don't take anything for BP except OTC remedies and watch my stress levels.
What about if he subbed in Turnabol?
Yeah, if he swapped Dbol for Turinabol with a powerlifting focus, the outcome would likely feel pretty different.
From my experience and what’s pretty consistent in the real world, Tbol just doesn’t bring that same acute strength spike you get from Dbol or Anadrol. Those compounds tend to give that fast “CNS + intracellular water + aggression” combo that translates directly into big jumps in load.
Tbol on the other hand is more of a slow, clean performance enhancer … better for work capacity, endurance, and a dry cosmetic look. You might get slightly stronger over time just from better training output, but you won’t get that immediate “add 10–20 lbs to everything” effect like with Dbol or Adrol.
Mechanistically, it also makes sense … the big strength compounds tend to push glycogen storage, intracellular water, and systemic drive (CNS arousal + androgenic push) harder. Tbol is much more “flat” in that sense, so it feels smoother but not explosive.
For powerlifting specifically, I’d personally say:
Dbol / Anadrol / Halo / Tren = strength + aggression + CNS drive
Deca / NPP (another 19nor) will also give you lots of power being beneficial for joints…
Tbol, I mean cleaner look, better conditioning, but not a top-tier strength builder(not for powerlifting, but that’s just my humble opinion)
Still useful though … just more of a support compound than a main strength driver in that context.
For me, of all the Test, Sustanon makes me stronger. So its either
Sust, NPP with EQ or Sust, NPP with Mast. When I was younger, it would be Deca instead of NPP. I do like adding anadrol, but not all ad50 are the same. Some brands seems to hit harder, always loved the ones made by Syntex or the old stuff from Russia. Also certain brand Dbol works better as well. Mast with its higher androgenic will get you strong. Mast with anavar or Tbol, may work for strength without the water weight gain.
Why do you say deca when you were younger? I seen a lot of hate towards deca but I never understood it? Would you mind to share what it is about deca you don’t like?
I actually love Deca. I believe you’ll get better joint support and more weight gain over npp, with that I can push and pull heavier load with less pain. Seems as I got older the sides are or more prominent when on deca. With npp I can pin eod and I get less sides.
I assume he means because NPP wasn't available back then buddy - it was just the longer estered Deca that you could buy. NPP is very common now with all sources but probably wasn't 10 to 15 years ago.
Actually it was available, just wasn’t popular then, called Deca Durabolin, it only came 50mg 5cc vials. Although I might be wrong on this, just assumed this one was the faster acting of of the Deca back then.
For Sure pal - Not all Orals are built the same. Some Adrol and Dianabol tabs work well - others don't!!
Yes in theory they are ALL the same make up and compound but for some reason some work much better than others for getting you strong.
Relatively new to AAS, but 350 test and 300 deca was awesome. Finished 3 weeks of 10mg halo. Used 1-2 mg of Reta to keep weight in check. Deca is personally my favorite compound blew my bench and squat up.
Test eq. 500 of each for 16weeks. Skip drol...bp might bite hard. Donate blood week 8 of cycle. Have Ai on hand as needed per blood test week 5-6. Var adds on good strength for me but kills appetite. 50mg last 6 weeks. Provi would make a fun option too
You will find everyone is different here mate - some guys like wet cycles with oestrogen lubing the joints and filling muscle like water balloons etc and other guys like and tolerate drier ones. Orals really are down to what personally give you the results and what you can handle/tolerate. I have done the Test and EQ route in the early days alongside DBol and it was 'okay' but after everyone saying how much better Nandrolone is for strength in the forums I gave that a go and I concur it is much better & effective at increasing lifts. But obv it will add weight to you depending on how easily and rapidly you put on muscle/water/fat etc. Lots of guys including Haack like Test and Masteron, alongside Anavar which personally I wouldn't be able to tolerate these days. Joint lubrication and protection I personally think is something you should really pay attention to past 40 as tendons love to surprise you in these years and go pop when they feel like it lol Lotta guys love Anadrol too over DBol so you have that option. Obviously you have the others like Superdrol, Halo, Mtren but they are all pushing the Toxicity markers so be prepared to probably feel like shit if you go that route. Winstrol is a no no in my book unless you want to tear a pec real quick.
In terms of Blood Pressure pal I think whatever you decide to run you will need some Telmisartan or Ramipril to keep that down as any oral thats effective in strength gain is going to in turn constrict your arteries and blood vessels. Beta Blockers like Nevibolol are also very effective at slowing down your heart rate slightly too as this will often increase if you are Blood pressure sensitive to a lot of compounds. I like Test, NPP and DBol these days and find that gives me the numbers I like to lift without being too toxic - I use to love adding in Tren Ace to that lot and got awesome gains from it but the long terms effects aren't worth the risk to me anymore pal, the tolerable and sustainable cycles appeal to me more these days where I also feel happy and human in my daily life. Hopefully others will chime in on here and give you their verdict and cycles also.
That was a cool read. On that note would a power lifter benefit from Hgh?
I've done A LOT of research into this mate and the general consensus is no in regards to actual strength gain - the only area it will help with is tendon health and collagen turnover. It can also hinder lifts like Bench because of the potential wrist pain you may get from carpel tunnel.
Facts right there
I know this is a bit off topic here so just briefly, have you ever taken H2 blockers before mate or is that not an issue with you?
Brother, TBH never really been an issue for me, even last Superdrol run I pushed it to 8 weeks and didn’t need any H2 blockers or anything.
Only time I felt it was when stacking orals like Var + Winny + Halo that combo can get a bit rough on the stomach. In those cases I’d use omeprazole here and there and it handled it fine.
Nowadays I’m way more conservative with stacking orals… rather keep it minimal or go injectable when possible.
Okay I'll ask you about Omeprazole!! Are you able to take that say 6 hours before training and get any releif the same day or is it a case of running it for several days before the effects begin to cancel the stomach acid production? I have just put in a request to try get some H2 blockers tomoz as they are script only in the UK now!
Big, omeprazole is pretty slow bitch for that kind of use. So you won’t really get same-day relief … it needs time to build up and actually suppress acid production. Usually it takes a good 2–4 days of consistent use before you really feel it properly, sometimes a bit longer depending on the person.
That’s why I usually only run it once things are already starting to build up, not as an “on-demand” fix. And if I do use it, I just keep it in for the rest of the cycle to keep things stable.
I mean … famotidine H2B for example is way more practical. That one kicks in within 1–2 hours, so it’s actually useful for same-day or pre-workout relief.
If getting scripts is tricky in the UK, there are other routes, but obviously pharma-grade is always the best option when you can get it … consistency and purity matter with stuff like this.
And yeah, for quick, immediate relief on the spot, even simple antacids like Tums can help short-term.
Crazy thing is mate is its for sale all over Ebay here!! Cheaper too but I am confident on getting the script today and that also means I can get it for free LMAO I have some old Ranitidine tablets (Zantac) but they are 5 years past EXP, Plus I see that was all recalled in the UK in 2020 because they are contaminated Lol
@press1 this is your field buddy