PHARMA AND UGL
I know this thread will help me if done correctly, I have been using UGL's since I think it would be helpful if we had a list that maybe can be added to periodically of what labs are UGL and what labs are pharma. I have been interested in using pharma just for piece of mind to see what differences they bring to the table. I dont dog UGL's because they have been great but I plan on using gear for a good while and would like to know what im looking at. I was in one of the suppliers websites a few minutes ago and he carried like 8 different labs in which some ive never heard of but that dont mean shit because ive been really strong minded on staying with lixus and veyron, but for future reference if i ever decided to go out of them two ugls i would like to know what all's out there. I know we have a product review section but im not looking for a review on the gear, just wanting to learn about more labs other than lixus and veyron. I know there are alot of you out there who have used more labs than i have and there just so many of them so help me out if you dont mind.
- Bookmark
- 0
- 0
You guys are giving me alot of helpful info and for that I appreciate it. I was wondering if their was more than 2 different types of labs. Do they make vet grade more potent? I used human grade cyp and prop back in 05 and it was really good. once again thank you guys and grrrrrrrrls for all your input
Frankievet grade is alot less potend tbo
eq 50mgs/ml
Anonvet grade isn't more potent, it just made by a pharmaceutical lab.. not a ugl
Frankiethey have three name infact
unigen
genisis
and there is another strange name they have branded under this year .
The license they have is very easy to get where they make it. I guarentee you 100% they are ugl. I have used it and didnt think it was very good.and had the worst pip of anything I have used. It was test E
Unigen is ugl. I have done lots of research on it. what real pharma grade medicine has holograms and scratch off verification codes?
Frankiethats the problem with them far east ugl bro ...they say they have these WHO/GMP/FDA licances ....they may well have ..BUT
THERE STANDARDS ARE NOT OF THAT OF THE WESTURN WORLD AND THERE LAWS AND REGS ARE TOTALY DIFFERENT HELL IF YU WANTED A FDA/WHO/GMP LICANCE TO BOTTLE AND SELL DOG SHIT IN THE FAR EAST AM SURE YOU COULD SOMEHOW OBTAIN THAT LICANCE
CORRUPTION AND LAWLESNESS IS WHAT ITS ABOUT IN THEM PLACES .
I heard Alapha Pharma is underdosed big time from multiple people I know that tried them that I trust in there opinion. So that's why I stay away from AP.
You guys forgot my favorite, Iranians
Testosterone Enanthate 250mg by Aburaihan Iran
Your right my bad lol i ment geneza
One sure fire way to tell if it's a UGL is if they have Tren A/Tren E. Trenbolone is only available "LEGALLY" as Finaplix H, a cattle implant pellet. (forgive me for stating the obvious but there may be someone out there who didn't know that. This is one method I use because honestly, there are so many labs I have no idea sometimes which are pharma. If i'm mistaken someone correct me
FrankieThats right bro any lab that carrys tren e/a and eq (boldanone ) is ugl for sure ,a source on here says alpha pharma is pharma grade ......oh is that right? well what pharma grade comapny lets a unlicned and unknow buy contact them and place a min order of 5k ? lol
Lol, I bought into the Alpha Pharma hype about a year and a 1/2 ago. Str8 bunk anavar. Boldenone? But can't EQ be legit pharma grade oil as a veterinary drug? I'm honestly curious.
Frankiereally ? ap are one of the best if not the best ugl out ther eimo ..strange you would find there products bunk bro becasue tbo i see alot of this stuff pass via a number of private uk sources i know and its highly sort after and has one of the best reps here in the uk and let me tell you we see some gear here bro ..
well pharma grade gear is just that bro "pharma" used for medical reasons on humans and eq being a vet drug is not passed or has no use for humans ,you could say the same about finaplex cattle implants really as its used on animals also.
eq/tren = not pharma and never will be
I worded that wrong (the boldenone comment). You're right about the fact that animal drugs aren't meant for human consumption, what i should have said is....., Just because it's for animals doesn't mean it didnt come from a major legit manufacturer. Veterinary drugs are made the same as drugs for human consuption right? so aren't there companies that make boldenone legally for race horses?
Anonveterinary meds are not human grade and yes it is made legally for race horses.. maybe I don't understand what you are asking.. even though you will find "human" meds for animals, (prozac, tramadol, prednisone, prednisolone) they are not human grade nor manufactured to human grade standards.. which means the manufacturer can change the fillers without approval from the FDA..
Well what i meant was just because they are not "human grade" does not mean they are neccesarily a UGL, right?
Frankiethere are three type of steroid producers
1- pharma licenced human grade steroids
2-unlicenced brewers hence under ground lab/homebrew
2-vet grade to what hardbody says has not requirments to meet fda approved passes
U the Man Frankie. Great Name btw, thats my name, lol
Anonso, if they are not human grade.. then what are they?? with the exception of vet meds made by big pharma, the only other labs are UGL..
Vet
Anonvet grade?? I suppose so ..
Although I dont know which ones they are, there are pharmacuetical companies that make EQ for horses, am i wrong?
Anonof course big pharma manufactures vet meds.. again not the same standards as human grade and no you can't call them ugl but at the same time they aren't hg either.. I get what you are saying though ..;-)
Rejected human/pharma grade products could/can easily make their way to the animal/vet side of the operation. It is the upside to running both operations.
Gotcha! I'm finished with my douchebaggery for the night, lol. Thank you for helping my unarticulate ass get my point across
Anonthat's what they keep me around for ;-)
Faked maybe? I got a few hundred anavar as did a friend of mine. We used two different sources. He got caps half white/half color. Mine were blue from a pill press. Bottles were very similar but mine had lettering that almost looked russian. I guess it's not fair to blame the lab if it was a counterfeit
Frankiegoogle
oxanabol alpha pharma
high quality gear with very good packing and scrach of pannel of check if real
caps they do not do
bottle they do not do
boxes and blister packs bro
Back when i got their stuff i knew how to convert fina pellets and synovex and that was it, lol. I was ignorant for sure (im still learning). So it was a counterfeit. I retract my negative comment about Alpha Pharma. I don't have the knowledge or experience with their products to make any claims. i got dupped
Frankiesounds like some hal ass attemt at cloneing the name tbo as to counterfit alpha pharma with the way they have there packaging you might aswell just set up your own ugl ....thats how much it would cost to get anywere near there packageing it really is the best i have seen for an ugl and it beats any pharma packageing hands down.
Frankieugl labs
-prestige healthcare
-hulk labs
-lixus
-veyron is
-optimal is
-omega is
-usp is
-pro chem is
-rohm is
-wild cat is
-all 10cc vials
pharma
-watson
-phizer
-organon
-norma
-schring
many more
What about naps?
Geneza and Balkan both claim to be Pharma Grade. I've heard conflicting reports on both. I'm not 100% sure
Frankiethats bs there not pharma grade if there selling tren man ..thats a fact.
Goes right back to my origional point, If they have tren, they are a UGL for sure
Thanks for that post, i was one of the people that didn't know that.
NP bro
Frankiehe carrrys ? genza ? ugl 100% axio? ugl 100%
No1It takes 5 seconds to click on sources and click their website and browse their oils
Frankielol but he,s not ask what oils sources sell he asking what labs are ugl and what are pharma grade
Frankieits pritty easy to tell ugl from pharma imo bro .
all ugl are 10ml vials except alpha pharma (yes its ugl)
now over in the usa you guys have 10ml vials also for script (watson and a couple of others)and these to come by on the black market is very very hard and if you do come across them they are likely to be counterfit imo as this stuff just cant be back doored without it going a miss .
99% of 10ml vials or above on the black market are ugl and there are 100,s from your good quality labs who know what there doing to your avaravge bath tub clown who has done little reserch and is out looking to make a fast $ without any care for the users health and what not
now lets look at phamra AMPS
alot of these are from middle/far east countries like iran/pakistan/turkey/greece/india/thieland
amps are hugely faked too and its risky bussiness now days dealing with them ,am not saying there is no legit pahrma garde gear out there but there is a risk for sure .
thieland/india/china ect also have a lone of 10ml vials they class as pharma grade WHO GMP FDA approved but in these countries these laws are slack and corrupt and these sort of titles they slap on there products can be faulseifyed to push a smoke screen to users in the west ,some ugl gear is sold in pharma in these countries so that says it all really ...
there are many good labs (ugl) out there but there ar also just as many bad ones ,same with counterfit and real amps .
if your after pharma brand names il draw up a list and let others add any i miss out .
hope this helps
Thank you!
thank you man that helps a lot . some people don't take this seriously or make a joke out of it but this help me a lot. if you can think of anymore please let me know. I am writing them down
+1. Very informative.