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No AI for first cycle?

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So before I read this post;
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/no-ai-cycle
I started planning on a cycle using masteron and proviron with a low dose of test at 375mg / week. Everyone keeps preaching one compound for first cycle to know what is causing sides, but then says to add adex or aromasin during the first cycle. That is still another compound.

A buddy of mine has been asking about cycling and recently joined eroids. I was advising him to get an ai, but now I'm wondering, wouldn't it be good advice to use low test, with masteron and proviron? Instead of jumping right into 500/wk and adding ai's, start at 375/wk with a couple of mild steroids to help utilize the extra test while having the anti estrogen properties? Maybe just have the aromasin on hand just in case he is super sensitive?

Maybe look something like what I'm planning on running next, minus the EQ, props, tbol and var...
http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/early-planning

So what do you all think, remove one drug with just antiaromatase properties and add 2 mild steroids with anitaromtase properties?

Hawkdc's picture

I have a question that falls into the category of sides, E2, and my AI. I'm in my third week of 600mg test e per week. I had bloods drawn again in week 2 because I wasn't feeling well. I found my estrogen was high so I started 12.5mg Aromasin ED for the past week. I want to get bloods done at this dose to see if this is effective or if I need to increase or decrease. Would my estrogen levels be down enough in just a week to show results? Or should I wait another week as continue my AI at the same dose? I assume Aromasin acts on estrogen almost immediately considering its half life, just wanted to hear input.

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Through privatemdlabs and blood taken at labcorp.

Hawkdc's picture

Nope I didn't front load. Levels were about 82 but enough to make me notice the sides. I started the cycle with about 18-20% bf so I'm guessing that has something todo with the faster conversion to E2. However test levels after only three pins were already above 1500. I'm feeling much better after a week on my AI so I think I'm going to stick with my current dose until it changes or bloods tell me otherwise.

bigrigger's picture

Well said my learned friend. This is exactly what I didn't want to come of the no ai post. I think everyone should have adex and aromisin on hand at the beginning of every cycle. No sides come up don't take them. Still at week 6 get bloods done to make sure. Easy as that!

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Alright thank you. A well thought out response. I won't advise my buddy to use anything but test and an ai as I already talked about with him. I, on the other hand, will be trying out the cycle I have posted the link to with the hope of not needing an ai.

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extremediezel's picture

man man you hit the sweet spot, AI kills my gains thats why i always run it only when necessary

jimmie's picture

What the fuck? I've been on eroids for 2 years and definitely not on my first cycle.

Just throwing an idea out there, not giving advice to do it, and looking for opinions and educated thoughts on the subject. You're response is uneducated, irrational and rude.

Funny, but uncalled for.

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jimmie's picture

fr sent. please elaborate

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B52-BODY's picture

^ this. cant wait !!!

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Yeah I get that, test only, but then you're still saying add an ai, which is another drug. See what I'm getting at? I mean, I'll keep him with just test and an ai, unless consensus agrees my logic.

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whitechocolate's picture

Its not the same thing stick with test and ai that's it