+ 2 Blast to Cruise Pt II
5’ 10”, 207 lbs, 10% bf, running 500 test, 400 deca, 250 mast per week. Going from a blast to a cruise soon and I want to keep as many gains as possible.
I’m debating on cruising with Sus but also considering test c. I can see the multi-estered nature of Sus being more stable on a cruise as it was designed to keep Trt patients more stable but I can also see the short esters in Sus being beneficial to help kickstart the next blast so I’m also considering saving the Sus for the next blast. First question is what are the upsides or downsides of using either compound for the cruise that I’m unaware of and what would you personally run if those were your only 2 options?
Next question is how many half-lives of the compounds I’m running should I wait before checking my cruising bloodwork?
I’m believe test c and Deca have similar half lives and being a long half life I expect them to be in my system for a while after last pin but I’m not sure how many half-live cycles I should wait to be able to draw an accurate sample of my cruising level bloodwork. Thanks for any helpful input, everyone!
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This Body Scan is very interesting to read through, never seen one of these before. How much did it cost you?
The owner was planning on charging $5 per scan but she lets me use it as often as I like. I was going for once a month but I want to do one a week but…I keep forgetting haha.
Ive had 2 of these tests done the first one read 4.5 and the second one 3 months later read 4.1 body fat
Some stores that sell supplements have these scales
The first time was free and the second time was like 25.00. But you can see the before and after if you made changes to diet or supplements.
So are we saying they aren't very accurate then, because surely you weren't 4.1% BF??!!! lol
My doctor has one and I’m always between 3.5 and 6.5. They are not accurate. I would imagine I’m somewhere between 10 and 15. Maybe they are good for trends but accuracy is a different story.
Not accurate lol I just got one done 3 weeks ago and it had me at 3.7% lmao I’m more like 15%. I think they’re “accurate” for natty guys. Makes people not feel so bad about themselves and where they’re at
LMAO Looks like they are a waste of $25 - another scam!!! Lol
Next there will be machines in supplement shops that do a body scan - then provide a 'recommended Steroid Stack' suggestion LMAO for $15
Yikes! I had no idea people were getting such wild results!
Maybe a dexa scan would be more accurate?
I happened to open my instagram today and by coincidence Jeff Nippard had a post with 3 pictures. One was of his abdomen, the next was a bf% readout of a dexa scan, and the other was an InBody scan.
The dexa said he was at 11.9% bf and the InBody said he was at 11.6% bf.
I wonder if this means that a dexa scan is as inaccurate as an InBody scan or if body posture issues (arms touching sides etc) can cause an InBody scan to be wildly inaccurate or maybe the machines weren’t calibrated or the electrical flow was impeded somehow.
Just seems odd to me that some guys seem to be getting inaccurate readings and Jeff was within 0.3% of a dexa scan.
It’s also odd that I happened to check instagram cuz I’m rarely there and to have a post relevant to this conversation also happened to be the first post on my feed.
Too many people on this comment thread to tag but of any of you guys read this let me know your thoughts.
DEXA is the gold standard. They will weigh you before the scan.
It's like getting a CAT scan; the scan will measure the density of everything in your body as it passes over you. You even get what looks like a whole-body ultrasound. It will then total up everything, and your weight will match the scale.
@Greg Have you had one? How much did it cost? How long did it take?
It’s $210 usd for a single scan and $195 usd per scan if you buy a 4 pack where I’m at.
If Jeff Nippard’s body fat percentage reading on an InBody scanner was within 0.3% of the Dexa scan I’ll probably stick with the InBody just because I have free unlimited access to the scanner, even though others have had readings they don’t agree with.
I’m guessing maybe their machines had some oils/grease on the electrodes impeding the electrical current or stuff in their pockets or their arms were touching their sides or something. Idk. It is really hard for me to keep my arms from touching my sides. Been trying to get my lats to grow.
Yes, years ago, probably around $80. I can't recall. Maybe took about a half hour.
Sust is not more stable. That shit has been but abandoned in the US for TRT. I think about the only place it’s still prescribed is the UK, and that’s well behind test U and some other shit they use over there. And cruising on it won’t help kick start gains next cycle. Sust is good for blasts, not for cruising. Use Test C or E. Pinned twice a week.
I’d plan to do blood work around 6-8 weeks after you finish your blast.
I wasn’t trying to say cruising on sus would kick start gains. I was trying to say cruising on test c and then using sus to start the blast would kickstart gains as the sus has short esters which will kick in quicker and raise test levels higher quicker than long acting esters.
Idk if that makes sense.
Got it. Sust does have the benefit of 90mg of shorter esters so you’ll feel something sooner. But on a reasonable dose of sust it’s just not that much short ester. 180mg if you’re running 500mg a week. Personally I prefer to run test E or C and kick start with prop for 4 weeks, or an oral like Dbol.
I was planning on using Dbol in the beginning as well haha.
I’d go with cyp only because if I were going to use sus I’d need to pin frequently like eod small doses.
Test C for cruise. Super stable. I haven’t run Sust yet but I was planning to run Sust for my next blast but I think I’m gonna stay on Test E instead.
Ohh no mate - you didn't just say that
The Anabolic Doc said that’s why Sus was created in the first place. It only caught on in the UK I guess due to patents and licensing issues.
I don’t think it ever did what it was intended to do tho, but that is historically why it was developed and what the developers goal was even if they didn’t achieve that goal.
However, I know a lot of guys love sus and I’m not sure if the guys that love sus use it primarily for blasts or primary for cruises, even if it achieves the purpose for which it was designed or not.
I was just joking with you mate, yes its why sustanon was developed initially but it ended up being a massive failure due to the various esters in it. Yes they helped it build up in the bloodstream sooner but it wasn't suitable long term because of unstable blood levels. I like Sustanon too for cycles but you have to be prepared to inject it at least EOD and even then until the Decanoate ester builds in it - it can be somewhat inconsistent.
If I recall correctly the initial tests they did with sus had the participants dosing either monthly or twice a month.
That’s insane to me. Sounds like a terrible experience.
Blasts... sus is all i use now. and test e for cruises
Sust blast, test c cruise. Sust feels much better on blast maybe it's the diff esters clearing so your not always so high.
5 weeks I'd say to check cruising. So everything can level out nice. That's what I'd do.
I would like to see that 10% bf also you should throw a pic up with the post. I'm sure it'll help with the advice given.
Idk about a pic because I have tattoos and I like my anonymity but I based that info off of an InBody scanner at my local gym. I might be able to black some of the identifying information out and post the scanner results. I’d be more comfortable with that.
anvilBecause he isn't 10% I'll bet @press1 's best sunday dress that he isn't.
Looks like ya better get ready to eat some Ass Pie because his results above say he is broski LMAO
That’s based off my gyms InBody scanner. Probably not the most accurate thing in the world but the last 2 tests told me I was 10% and it’s probably more accurate than judging by pictures.
Believe what you want tho. You already think I’m a troll for my HGH experience that even @press1 chimed in on so there really is no pleasing you.
My profile pic was chosen as a tribute for you, O Mighty Troll Hunter.
Mate - Just tell Anvil to FUCK OFF!!! Don't be scared of him pal
It’s the admins I’m afraid of. I think I read somewhere that they will strip your karma for being too fiery so I’m doing by best to keep what little karma I have.
That and if I can get my point across without using profanity or vulgar name calling or being too condescending hopefully others might follow. Just kindness with a touch of blunt truth.
Honestly if I was going to lie about my stats I sure wouldn’t be 5’ 10” and near 40 years old haha.
I’d be like 6’ 8” and 29 years old and I’d weigh 310 lbs at 6% bf haha.
I have loads of dresses to choose from - loosing 1 wouldn't bother me
Oh we know. I still have the pink and black one you sent me.
Won't have been mine then bro - I only have Red & Black PVC ones
Will of been one of Anvils
Well now you do, cause I have it
And i bet your color blind
@Mikeyt84LINY @press1 @anvil
I posted the InBody scan with identifying information removed. Like I said before I have tattoos and I like my anonymity.
Yes, InBody scans are not the most accurate thing in the world. However, they are very likely more accurate than trying to judge bf% by looking at a pic taken in shitty lighting by an amateur on an outdated IPhone.
Also, my InBody scan says 210 on the date I scanned but my bathroom scale said 207 on the day I posted so that’s why there is that discrepancy.
anvilI like it, yeah wasn't a jab at you, just another post.
Hey Bud I couldn't care less what BF you are lol They are just having a joke with you because many people say they are 10% or less on here and in reality they are nowhere near, more like 15%.
Oh I know you don’t have any animosity, @press1. I just tagged you cuz I don’t want you giving up any of your prized dresses.