UncleYoked's picture
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+ 5 Why bother flagging for too many reviews/promo whoring?

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I can understand how some people would go over the 8 if they Frankenstein cycles, I've done it in the past with tren from one source, test from another and orals from another but if there's going to be a hard limit on reviews per year, it should just be an automatic cap. I see people getting flagged for promo whoring and excessive reviews constantly and a lot of them are just new guys who have run cycles in the past and just found the opportunity to review them now, I don't think they should be crucified for it.
A system that limits the amount of reviews per month/year would be more apt.
I'd make it something like 3 review allowed within a 4 month period and 8 total reviews per year.
Same with reviews, limit the amount of promos someone can join per few months if there is a magic number, maybe even make promos content invisible once someone reaches their limit.
Maybe even allow sources to set a min karma rating, account age, etc for people who could view their promos.

Makwa's picture

I have noticed alot of the reviews are from people who claim they have used the source for many years. Most of them are just giving a generic over encompassing review of the source and not reviewing products they are currently on or just finished up using. Products are legit and do what they are supposed to Lol I don't care that you used some test e and tren from this source a year ago. What relevance does that have now. Batches and sources shipping times seem to change daily. Reviews need to be current to be relevant.

Many just throw up multiple generic reviews in hopes to kiss the sources ass and get some freebies from at least one of them. Also putting up multiple dumbass reviews still raises review karma. I need 5 karma to get in this promo so I'll put up 5 reviews from sources I have used in the past 3 years.

Now all these sources seem to have these telegram channels or something like that saying if they post a review for them on Eroids they get some freebies or a discount. Those reviews are always watered down. All one liners. Haven't seen a legit or good one yet. Getting ridiculous trying to find a good and legit review nowadays. Greg is probably sick of me flagging all of this shit.

UncleYoked's picture

Good point, I think there should be a limit to how far back you can review, maybe 1 year. We've seen sources come in as kings and leave as jesters, so things really can change overnight.

Greg's picture

Reviews older than six months fall off the ranks. I've been using that as the cutoff for reviews. Any order made over six months ago is not eligible for review. Any promo review flag set for a missing promo review needs to be removed after 6 months from the order date (plus shipping time)

Six months is plenty of time to place an order and run a long cycle. We would want a review when the cycle is fresh on the mind, not having to recall one from a year back, not having to recall one two cycles ago. One not made as an afterthought.

Composite reviews generalizing overall order history is NOT allowed. Those reviews will be deleted.

Darkhorse777's picture

How do we get a missing review flag removed if it was longer than 6 months I was flagged for a promo 2 years ago and I didn't use the gear I had some blood clots which caused a heart attack my cardiologist ok me for trt as long as blood work is good I've been here since close to the beginning just wanted to figure out how to get the flag or tag removed

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BFG's picture

I cleared the false flag

Darkhorse777's picture

Thanks

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Greg's picture

You click on the DNR flag and contact the source that placed it and ask that it be removed. Having said that, there might be a glitch on this one... @BFG

Darkhorse777's picture

Thanks

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Makwa's picture

Maybe something should be said in the popup about must recieved and used the product within the last 6 months.
1. You have received AND used the products within the last 6 months

To many sorry for the late review, I am just getting around to it.

Greg's picture

Ironically, they're just getting around to it when a new promo starts. @BFG

BFG's picture

added 6 month limit

Makwa's picture

Exactly Lol

Greg's picture

The review limits predate the promos.
Eroids promotes responsible AAS use with PCT. We want thoughtful and critical reviews. Not fanboy fluff pieces.

There is a review limit of 8 reviews per calendar year. A hard cap on ten. (If your reviews are detailed and worthwhile; mostly not involving a promo, you may be graced an extra review or two)

Standard orders don't require a review.
SOURCES, not eroids, pressure customers to review their promos.
If I am going to primarily use promos, I need to understand my obligation is to eroids first. Not the source.

Sources are better equipped to control promo abuse, unfortunately, a lot of them want as many shills out there pumping them up the ranks. In a review, one bottle of test ranks as much as an entire cycle. For a source, numbers of Reviews count. Sources know this and will time and time again, allow some idiot to enter a new promo, even if they've just had their Karma stripped and been labeled a whore. And sources will hound their customers for the 5/5 ranking.

Maybe sources need to rethink how they want to hand out promos... Give better discounts for cycles and reviews; worry less about reviews for a discounted vial or two which basically gets your product and service out there in hopes of luring a customer into your fold.

UncleYoked's picture

Strange, I'm getting an error trying to reply to Jake, says debugging and an http 500 error, I'll try as a new comment:

@JakeKO
That may be a better, if sources flag people for being in a promo, maybe that person can clear that flag by reviewing for the promo directly?
On the review it could say in red: Promo Review
Most of my reviewers aren't from promos, because I don't flag people on promos and I don't run promos year round but if it would have some kind of benefit for the community and less stigma for the customers, I probably would flag.

Greg's picture

Same here... seems to happen if someone edited/added a comment to the page. Copy your text, refresh the page and paste.
@BFG

JakeKO's picture

That would be great, and makes more sense. I know they don’t like Frankenstein cycles, but what if we have preferred sources for certain compounds? I know I do. For instance, I love a certain labs injectable Winstrol, but think their Mast E sucks, and will never use it again. Therefore, I can never review that cycle properly because I always run them together.

Greg's picture

Then buy the product outright and don't review it, particularly if you have done so already and/or there's no issue with the product. How many cycles with proper PCT and time off can you fit into a year? How many "one off's" like what you're talking about do you need?

Eight F'n reviews is a lot unless you're cruising or not doing the proper PCT and time off; which are practices we don't support.

No one is required to review paid for orders, that's like amazon requiring you to review every order. Sure, sources would like you to review everything, and they love to try and guilt or entice you into reviewing everything. The only time you are required to review (from a source, not eroids) is when it's a condition for a promo YOU choose to participate in.

No one is forcing anyone to participate in a promo. So if you're near or at your review limit... DON'T JOIN A PROMO.

quite simple really.

BFG's picture

No one is forcing anyone to participate in a promo. So if you're near or at your review limit... DON'T JOIN A PROMO.

THIS.

Nattyboomba's picture

I really like this. I shop around because of this very reason. I buy different items from different places because cost & quality are important to me. Also, many sources now drop ship, so what’s the point of buying all of your compounds from a single source if they have 13 warehouse with shipping charges & varying T/A times for each one? Reviewing compounds would be a great guide, although I recognize the enormous undertaking that would be for the mods.

UncleYoked's picture

I personally see no problem with it and I think it's fair to be able to review a specific product.
A drop down menu of source provided products could even help users pick individual items they are reviewing.
Most of this is probably too much work for ol BFG but let's keep pitching ideas, maybe something will stick

Nattyboomba's picture

I completely agree with this. There is a tendency by some to portray those running Frankenstein cycles as disloyal or shady, but it’s just how it works sometimes. Especially with the new guys experimenting with new sources. Fact is, there is no place like Eroids & it takes some time to get used to the environment and expectations. Also, sometimes the loudest ones are the minority, they aren’t speaking for everyone - but they are quick to point the finger at new people, instead of gently guiding them in a more productive direction. It’s also worth mentioning that in a place that hosts so many promos, it is t really appropriate for some to be so quick to govern how those promos are used. Maybe I use one source exclusively and maybe I try a new source each time. That’s no one else’s business.

Jack2812 Burton's picture

Don't ever have to worry about ole Jack Burton promo whoring. Somehow I have -6 review karma!! The thanx I get, even after Egg Shen and I defeated David Lo Pan. SMH.

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JakeKO's picture

I understand the reasoning behind it all, but I think what this system really does is limit people to reviewing eight free PROMOS per year. We will never hear about other sources that may be great, but really can’t afford to give away a lot of free gear. Sources that give the most will always reign supreme. I’m not complaining about it, because I don’t have a better solution or even a suggestion to make it better.

OlympicLats's picture

Seriously, that's why I'm sitting on the outside looking in. I truly didn't deserve my karma being wiped but it is what it is.

UncleYoked's picture

I've seen it happen to a lot of guys. I try to put myself in others shoes, I know if I had just shown up here and seen a bunch of sources I'd been using for years, I'd write a review for all of them to show my appreciation since this would be the first opportunity to do that. I don't agree with people being mobbed and treated poorly for trying to contribute to the community. There are some people who do purposely abuse the system but I believe the majority are more like yourself

Nattyboomba's picture

Agreed. I think typically, new members are simply trying to be cordial & kind when they receive a legitimate product, especially if it’s free or discounted. Outside of Eroids, getting decent gear is a daunting prospect, so when someone sends them 4 free vials of good clean test, they are naturally grateful. Then when attacked by members looking to put someone on blast - it’s a bit confusing. They don’t really understand that sources don’t directly represent Eroids, I think

Greg's picture

They don’t really understand that sources don’t directly represent Eroids, I think

Eroids is a grass roots review site only.
It is against the rules to conduct sales on eroids. Sources are required to have their own websites.
Eroids is not affiliated or sponsored by any source.
Eroids does not have any vested interest in any source.
Eroids "mission statement" (if you will) is to give members a platform to alert other members of scam sites, bad gear, etc.
Eroids priority is on members, not sources.

Nattyboomba's picture

Understood. This is one of the concepts that makes this place unique and where the true value lies; as well as the overarching policy of harm reduction/safety.
There is a lot happening here & there are many members with varying ideas of what Eroids is and many levels of participation & contribution, and it can take a minute to familiarize oneself with the expectations of membership. And even though it is clearly spelled out, new members often dig right into forums before acquainting themselves of the parameters of the site.
In the beginning it took me a bit to catch on to what this site is and what’s expected of me, and once it did this place became my most valued source of peer-to-peer information exchange. There is nothing else like it out there.

FlemDaddyKush's picture

Just adding in on this, when you go to your stats on your account it keeps track of a number that's supposedly for reviews. But whenever you comment on someone's review that number increases. They should fix that so at least the number is accurate and it doesn't look like you have way too many reviews.

press1's picture

I did think they fixed that a while back? As far as I understand the Review Karma is made up of number of reviews you have done in total and then the amount of upvotes on those reviews. So if you tend to write good, in depth reviews and get a good number of upvotes on them it reflects in the total.

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FlemDaddyKush's picture

Oh okay that might make sense because on my stats it says I have 17 reviews. I definately don't have 17 reviews

Greg's picture

I count the actual reviews and dates... not karma.