posted Sat, 06/21/2025 - 05:27
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Your stance on deportations policies
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Your stance on deportation policies?
Deport everyone, even those in the process to gain legal residency
Deport criminals and anyone who entered illegally
Deport criminals only, right to jail (El Salvador)/Save Big Booty Latinas
Everyone is legal on stolen land! We love criminals too <3 No More Kings!
Deports criminals, offer path to residency for hardworking people
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Everyone knows they came to this country the same way right?
Especially if your Irish, Italian or Roman catholic.
Your ancestors were hated!!!
Now here you are doing the same thing to these people that was done to your ancestors??
Go watch gangs of new york to get a Lil idea. Maybe it will change your mind.
It does make it a little harder probably because these people don't look like you. Funny thing is most people coming from latin American countries are more American than any white person will ever be, because they've Aztec, comanche, apache ancestors. And they're being told they're not Americans and can't live somewhere? Sounds backwards put like that huh?
That's because the land was conquered and a country formed with Law and Order. Just like every country in the world it was once someone else's land but the strongest win. No other country allows people to just walk right on in across their border. Go visit another country illegally and see what happens.
https://youtu.be/MN90wZRnyM0?si=f_Ql_02wsxwLRKrt
Exactly no one talks about how the Native Tribes also took each other out.
Saying immigrants are hated is a big reach. The vast majority just want ppl to enter the legal way. Why should ppl across the ponds wait years to get here the right way, while others simply go to Mexico or Canada and come in on their own terms, many violent criminals with bad intentions or drug smugglers flooding our communities with filth. To say ppl against illegal immigration are racists and hate ppl because they look different is a tired rhetoric.
How about we treat immigrants the same way they do in Mexico? Try driving around Mexico with a flag from another county like El Salvador or even a US flag. And no not everyone came here the same way not even close. Import the third world then you become the third world. I dont want the USA to become like the UK, France, or Germany. I'm not even saying that immigrants are bad but shitty immigrants are shitty. Which is why everyone needs to come in the correct way which is the legal way so they get vetted.
Los Angeles, some of the most idiotic immigrant people AND naturalized citizens with their bullshit Mexican flag " Viva Mexico", etc.
Ughhh last memo I got was we are IN the USA so if you wanna act like a shitty dumb ass, drama theatrical idiot that this is Mexico?? GTFO of American states!! Fly you're bitch ass flag in your COUNTRY and stop the theatrics!
"Import the 3rd world become the 3rd world"
Spot on!
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Groypers assemble!
If you don't like the laws then try to get the laws changed. Absolutely none of you guys like the asshole who decides to cut to the front of the line at the store. There are thousands of people who have been following the rules to try and enter our country the proper way. Those are the people who should get priority over the douchebag who decided he could jump the line to come here.
I have no issues with helping those who are legitimately fleeing from war, gang violence or whatever. But that isn't the majority of the people jumping the border. I doubt any of the people demanding we let everyone in would be cool with finding some random dude in their house one day eating your food, using your utilities and helping themselves to whatever they wanted. I don't see this as being any different. I also don't think that anchor babies should be a thing. That doesn't exist elsewhere in the world. Why would a foreign citizen having a child while visiting your country make the child a citizen?
2nd line. Yup i voted
Lol thats rough.
Pretending to be for the people while putting them down in the same sentence
I hate everyone equally, fuck your race war.
OPERATION MIDNIGHT HAMMER BOIII!!
Sounds like a gay BBC porno....
That was my nickname in highschool. Midnight Hammer lol
Is that similar to “night of the long knives”?
Except we didn't target any civilians or troops. Just nuclear targets. At least thats what they said
I dunno bro, the whole situation is ugly, and too many people are falling into the America almighty rhetoric. Don’t get me wrong, I’m one of the proudest Americans you’ll ever know, but we’re aligning ourselves militarily with a country that is hated, shit there’s a couple dozen (give or take) countries in the U.N. That don’t even recognize Israel as a country, this one isn’t our fight. The other problem, and in my opinion the bigger one, is because they’re neighbors, most people think Iran is the same as Iraq, they are not. I’d choose stores without people of that shade of brown to get your morning coffee for the next few months…
That makes sense. Because Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Algeria, Comoros, Djibouti, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Oman, Qatar, Somalia, Syria, Tunisia, and Yemen hate Israel we should too. We should align ourselves with those countries which are all models of what we hope the US could one day become and to do so much to make the world a better more stable place.
Although if we do get more like Venezuela one day can we atleast not eat our dogs? I really like dogs.
That is such a stupid argument. That because the shittiest counties in the world (coincidentally mostly all Muslim majority who hate Jews for obvious reasons) hate Israel that makes them a bad country that we shouldn’t support anymore. The single free democratic country that shares our values in the unstable wasteland that is the Middle East. We shouldn’t align ourselves with them Anymore. Maybe we should realign with Yemen, or Somalia, or Syria. That’ll help make the world safer. The Jews have their 1 country in the entire world. How about we leave them alone? We already have 49 Muslim majority countries, we don’t need a 50th, despite what those couple dozen shithole counties you referenced want.
I don’t think we should be taking geopolitical “sides” until we do some self-aligning here on our homeland. Not once in any of my statements have I mentioned anything whatsoever about Jewish people, I have many as friends and relatives, my boss is Jewish. My references are to Israel, which by design, and yes modern day Israel is designed, is a very dangerous entity, ask any Palestinian. If one were to take religion out of the equation, which I did in my statements, and modern day Israel came to be without our involvement or support, they would be an absolute enemy in the eyes of American values and morality. Since October 2023 roughly 15,000 Palestinian CHILDREN have been killed, no one on this planet can explain that casualty number to me in a way that I’m ok with.
I will say I mostly agree with you on staying out of geopolitical conflicts. We have enough problems at home that we still need to fix. I don’t think what Israel did was a smart move. They’ve been saying Iran is a year away from a bomb for 15 years now. And that put us in a Shitty position when they started this since we’re the only country in the world with the capability to finish the job. By now they should have had their own bunker busters. But they wanted to drag us into it I’m sure. Idk if what we did yesterday was the right move.
I definitely don’t want to get dragged into a conflict with Iran. Every middle eastern excursion we’ve went on the last 40 years has been a complete failure. Syria, Libya, Iraq, are all way worse off now. There’s a good chance if we forced regime change in Iran it would be worse than the current situation. You never know, so it’s better so leave it alone.
I’m glad you made the distinction of since October 2023, which is when Hamas launched an unprovoked attack on Israel civilians killing 1200 and Taking hundreds of hostages. At which point Israel they responded in kind, as they should have. There would be no war and children dying in Gaza if Hamas didn’t do what they did on October 7th. Now mind you, Hamas was elected by the people of Gaza. This isn’t some rogue terrorist group operating in Gaza that doesn’t represent the will of the people their. it’s their elected government. Furthermore, the heavy civilian casualties are mostly attributed to the fact that Hamas likes to base their operations in civilian areas, like hospitals.
Take religion out of it and it’s still the same. A democratic free country that shares our values in a sea of totalitarian regimes that stomp on human rights and women’s rights. So sure let’s let “Palestinians” take over Israel and institute their government. Where shiria is the law of the land, where women can’t go to school, are forced to cover their faces and are stoned to death for stepping out of line, where gays are thrown off buildings. That sounds like the kind of country we need more of. Not shitty isreal where women have all the same rights as men and people aren’t killed for being different. Where basic human rights are upheld.
History didn't start in Oct. Literally everything you said is propaganda talking points.... good job.
It’s a point of view, and I’m truly enjoying the trading of points, I’m always trying to broaden and improve my outlooks, can’t do that without opposing views. I get the land grab part, we took America from the natives, the “natives” took it from each other after they took it from the Mexicans, no idea who was here before that, but the destruction of human life, especially children, I’ll never be ok with.
I definitely enjoy the trading of views, what I don't enjoy is condescending rhetoric from people regurgitating mainstream media talking points that are directly handed to the talking heads by Intel agencies. I'm just waiting for someone to be called an "anti semite".
Yeah, me as well. Fortunately anti-zionist and anti-semetic are two different ball games. I’m very far from being a military strategist, but as you said now Iran has garnered more support and has multiple countries offering them nuclear weapons. If, and that’s a big if, we did destroy their devices, now they’re going to get completed functional weapons from elsewhere. If we’re serious about their threat, we’d have to keep going until the job is done. Otherwise all we did was provoke them and push others into full support for their regime.
I do like those B-2 Bombers though - Very stealthy LOL
You seen the size of those fuckin Bunker Busters too??!! They are HUGE next to the size of a man. Because of the sheer weight of them falling vertically from so many miles up they penatrate 60m into the earth before they even explode!! Those B-2's are the only Bombers capable of carrying them LMAO
‘Murica !
Later reports are saying the Iranians moved all of the uranium they had in these sites and the bombs dropped were only targeting the entrances. I'm honestly stuck on the idea that Iran is running the long game. I believe they will not only refuse the nukes offers, but not seek one for themselves. They don't need to. Because of this strike, Iran now controls the rate of escalation. And they will escalate high enough to bleed the u.s and Isreal but not high enough to warrant them using nukes. Youtube channel that talked me into it was "predictive history" . I disagree with his view on the isreali/American relationship. But he did predict this a year ago.
I can see that, unfortunately the United States is the only country on earth with a four year look ahead. Everyone else is playing the game long, longer, and longest. I’d say the longest game is probably China. They seem to not care about the next 5 years, they’re looking far ahead. American culture can’t get away from instant gratification mentality.
I’m enjoying the conversation, don’t get me wrong, but I will continue to agree to disagree. Yes Hamas made that attack Oct 7th, and arguably the best intelligence didn’t know it was going to happen? Or was it allowed as a catalyst to finally seize control of all that land? The problems in that region started a long time ago, but the late 1940’s it’s the point in time that’s most relevant today. We’re going to deny that under the Balfour Declaration of 1917 the wheels weren’t set in motion? Ultimately leading to in simplest terms an open air prison for the countries inhabitants at that time? To be fair, history including our own is land grab after land grab, it is what it is, but to be putting Israel on a pedestal is ludicrous. Shiria law is absolute horror to me, and to most reasonable people, but it is their way of life and has been for thousands of years. Who are we to change that? As far as the Israelis bombing hospitals, day cares, etc, because the enemy may be hiding there, that’s unacceptable and still by definition a war crime. If you were in public, say a crowded mall (bad comparison, but…) and you were armed, an armed attacker robbed or assaulted you, but you had an opportunity to draw your weapon. That attacker saw your move and picked up a child and held her in front of his chest and head to use as a shield, are you going to shoot through that child to get your wallet back?
Land grab, or winning a war is how territory is gained and countries are established. And it’s not always a fair fight. But that’s irrelevant. Isreal got their land beating the Arabs in 1947. And a handful of times since then. And we took ours by force from the British. Who took it by force from the natives. By for some reason the Palestinian supporters can’t get past this point. They say It’s stolen land that Israel is on. But every other county in the world isn’t in stolen land?
Furthermore, Israel has proposed giving up part of their land to create a Palestinian state no less than 5 times now since 1947. All have been rejected by the Arabs. One proposal was Israel giving up 80% of their land. And they still said no. That should tell you everything you need to know about the Palestinians and the PLO. They’re in love with the struggle. They have no interest in bettering the lives of their people. If they did then obviously they would have accepted one of the 5 offers to give them land and establish a Palestinian state. But they didn’t because the objective is from the river to the sea. And the disillusion of Israel. Many on that side would say the annihilation of the Jews and Israel.
The last thing I’ll say on this, because you’re not changing my mind and I’m probably not changing your mind, so this is an irrelevant conversation. Bringing politics into this place is a bad idea. But, there’s only 1 side trying to avoid civilian casualties, and that’s Israel and you know that. They do their best using intelligence gathered, precision guide strikes, notices to evacuate way ahead of time etc to avoid civilians. I don’t recall Hamas telling the folks in southern Israel to evacuate before 10/7, do you? Ofcourse not. They intended on killing and raping civilians. As they’ve done shooting rockets into Israel for decades now. One side doesn’t discriminate between civilians and soldiers, the other side is solely going after militants.
For reference, there was an estimated 15,000 people in this crowd this day. That many children? Inexcusable.
But it is funny how they are talking impeachment over the war powers act when In 2011, Obama approved a massive military campaign against Libya and Clinton launched cruise missile attacks under Operation Infinite Reach on two continents on August 20, 1998. He ordered attacks in locations in Khartoum, Sudan, and Khost Province, Afghanistan. In 1999, Clinton ignored the 60-day deadline and continued to bomb forces in Kosovo. Obama also defied the War Powers resolution on Syria. He actually did ask for congressional authorization to take military action in that country in 2013, but Congress refused to approve it. He did it anyway. Trump was wise to notify Congress and is currently in compliance with the Act
They’re all crooked, and they all are having their strings pulled. I look at it as I go to work, pay my dues, don’t break any laws that bother anybody, and I’m good to go about my life. I’m quite sure the federal government knows EXACTLY everything I’ve done, and probably things I plan to do, but nothing affects anyone except myself, so they let me be. It’s how I feel about Iran, they’re on the other side of the world, they are no threat to us, and I’m sure they want to keep doing business with the United States. This conflict isn’t about threats to us, it’s personal with an ally of ours, but, and it’s only my opinion, we should sit this one out, there’s nothing to prove or protect.
We -should've- sat this one out... you can't just strike someone and not expect to be in a fight.
They are committed to their actions regardless of what we do. The only thing this could possibly do is speed up their timeline. Now they are forced to play their hand sooner than later. If home grown terrorism is going to be a problem, I'd rather it be a problem we handle today under an administration that won't hold back.
What actions? Enriching uranium for energy and hating Isreal? I'm perfectly fine with that. It was none of our business. Home grown terrorism? From who? Why now? Why not 30, 20 , 15, 10 years ago? They were always playing their hand, we just forced ourselves into their table. And now they don't even need to pursue their own nuclear bombs (which they werent), since they now have many countries offering to GIVE them nuclear weapons.... so I'm not sure what exactly the strategy is here.... but it doesn't seem to be working.
My biggest fear isn’t of a traditional invasion or ballistic missiles, that’s simply not going to happen, but guerrilla attacks on American soil? I do think that possibility is very real. Do people really think their general mindset is that different from ours? Iran literally had a country on the other side of the earth fly their planes overhead and drop bombs on them, what would we do with n that exact same scenario? No they don’t have the advanced weaponry we do, but they’re driven by culture and a fundamentalist religious ideology. I’m 100% sure they’re going to get their pound of flesh somehow, some way.
Don't have advanced weaponry? Have you been seeing what they've been doing to Isreal for the past week? And yeah the the guerilla tactics on American soil sure, it's a possibility.... but how likely WAS it?... and to be perfectly honest... I still don't think it's very likely. I think whats more likely is we tear ourselves apart. In my uneducated opinion, I think Iran is really only interested in expelling us from the region and crushing Isreal. I believe after they achieve that, they'll just fuck us with high oil prices.
Valid points, the next few weeks/months will be interesting for sure. As far as advanced weapons, I’m pretty sure we’ve seen the absolute best of their tech, in comparison to what we, Russia, China, have in the closet? It’s not even close. Hopefully the last two countries don’t get involved, we’re really not winning popularity contests these days.
Yeah I definitely don't know who's more advanced. As far as China, I think they are a perpetual "watch and wait" state. I think , atleast for the next few decades, they are way more interested in their own country to attack anybody outside of Taiwan. As far as Putin, I think he's an opportunist. Waits patiently for doors to open. He's going to sit back and let us unravel ourselves. Both supply Iran? Oh yeah for sure. Either getting directly involved? They won't have to.
Thats why i think now is best time. Syria is done, Russia is weakened from the Ukraine war, N. Korea used and lost a huge chunk helping them and Hamas, Hezbolla and and Youthis are basically depleted. The "axis" we always feared is no longer an axis. Think their regime is weak enough for the people to rise up on their own from the khameini grip. China is the only one and will they act when there is noone else on their side and they are focusing on Taiwan and this trade war.
I don't know man.. I have a feeling Putin is alot smarter than to exhaust his forces in the Ukraine, I also feel like he's smarter than to reveal his countries the power. Ansar Allah is supplied by Iran, and Iran has been stockpiling for decades in preparation for the zionist attack, that's an open plan btw, so I doubt they're depleted. Iranians aren't like other people, the more you attack them, the more they will rally behind their government, even if they are highly critical, they will stand with the government against any attacker of their country. And China just wants trade and to maintain their government power.
But i have this wierd odd feeling that theres hidden intel out here that if we didn't do what we did last night and they did use a nuclear missile than there would be 100% we would use our troops rather than 50% if they attack our bases in the region and we use our troops. We will never know as civilians without security clearance
Well our own Intel agencies and the u.n and iaea all have stated that Iran does not nor were pursuing nukes. This line that Iran is days away from getting a nuke is literally 35 years old. I have to assume that the only Intel that made them attack was the epstein files, if ya get my drift.