Frontload to Falling Flat
Not a real big fan of Frontloading so prepare for a bias view.
After my last PCT and recovery I had gear to test (sigh) I planned to be off all winter and really come ON for a long run over the summer.
Having several poroducts to "test" I figured which ones could be used and doubled up in a 10 week run.
Test P
Test C
Tren A
Tren E
Mast P
Mast E
Bold U
The Boldenone was a "okay I stuck it a few times and no issues".
Ramping up on Test P and Test C I over shot and had too much Test for my liking. Adjusting down I fell flat and never got my "feeling" back the entire cycle from receptor downgrade right from the shit and get.
I added the Tren A and Tren E with better success but still had the flat Test thing going on. Of course Tren did everything I expected but the I could tell the Test Base was flat.
Same with adding the Mast. The products are all good but my Frontloading resulted in too many mgs early in the cycle and shaved off the MAX BENEFIT.
A slower mg climb next time for me. In the long run I also believe frontloading leads to use of super high mgs for the same effect of normal or moderate mgs.
Something to mull over and debate for this place is fucking DEAD last couple days.
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Are you done for good with the stronger orals, esp dbol?
that makes alot of sense about frontloading. you get a big rush of test and downgrade your receptors, Then once you go down to your planned dose you dont feel shit. very smart write up. no more frontloading for me. I never thought about that until right now and it makes perfect sense. (to me anyways) +1 homie
Do you think the lack of good test feeling was overloaded receptors or could it have been the excess Test was converting to estrogen and killing your manly self ???????
Possibly both? I sure think both could have taken place bro. I think a smooth steady cycle works better with my body. Because estrogen was a problem that last cycle. I was finding myself more and more emotional and it was getting easier to get emotional each passing week. I'm not an overly sensitive guy but I would get teary eyed watching movies and tv. My wife loved it. She even joked that she liked that I was getting n touch with my emotions:-]
As far as receptors I am on trt and didnt take time completely off before that cycle. Went from trt to blastoff. I usually run a month of pct after a blast and then start trt. Just for a lil break u know rest the receptors I dont hear many other guys on trt do any kind of complete break away from aas after a big cycle. They just go straight to trt. I may be completely wrong by taking time away from any aas for a month minimum but I sure do react so much better after time away.
I think this topic is a great conversation to have. Does long term cruise blast method ever give the receptors a break. Does it matter? I still don't have a clear understanding. Sure would love to hear some vets chime in here:)
Doc I agree completely. Last cycle I frontloaded 1250mg of wk 1 down to 1000mg wk 2 to a baseline of 750. I never dis feel as good as I did the first 4 wks. I felt tempted to keep my dose high. The crash I felt wasn't so much a crash but more like spinning my tires and going nowhere. I added tren e after wk 4 ran thru wk14. It did exactly as u said I felt te tren bigtime. But I felt unbalanced if that makes sense. This next run I'll do it the right way. Using prop to get my run started this time.
AnonI was tempted to ride high mgs and keep "up" my feel good but next cycle I'd just need even more. Spinning the tires is a great anology.
Thanks for checking Bro.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYa I had a chat with tread about my last cycle and from what he said I was only hurting myself in the long run. I finally took almost 4 months off and am ready to give the low n slow method a shot. I want to look back ten years from now and say I did things the RiGHT way. The SMART way. Not MY way. I may never be on the stage at Mr Olympia but all that matters to me is to stay who I am. Not lose myself with this game. Always stay in control and listen to my body. Folks would be surprised how much our body is trying to talk to us. The spinning wheels was my body saying I'd fucked up and went too big.
Anonvery good posts here doc and gs