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Observations of my first cycle - 9 weeks on Test E

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Firstly, many thanks to the other forum users here who have helped me understand the world.

So, here are my observations of my first ever cycle :
° The "calmness of mind" is refreshing. I enjoy life more and just vibe most of the time with no more anxiety. That was unexpected.
° Some people have noticed a difference in my stature, even though the pics do not show any difference.
° Injecting in the thighs sucks, but the delts and traps are easy and PIP free. Warming up the vial prior to injecting, taking my time has been essential, and changing up spots is crucial.
° I eat alot more, but since I eat clean for now 3 decades, its just more spinach and clean meats. And the occasional pizza and beer with friends.
° No hair loss or thinning and no acne ... but I have recently experienced sensitive nips so now I am taking 20mg of Nova until it subsides ("treat the symptoms, not the numbers")
° Recent fertility test showed 94% are slow swimmers (should I start HCG now?)
° I am more assertive but just way chill about it
° Rage free

** Linked a before and after pic (same appearance but feeling different). Though the pics don't show it, I have gained 3kg since end of December, no changes in body fat.

Now I want to optimise after some setbacks (grade 2 groin tear in Dec, moto accident + carpal tunnel surgery in Jan) as I enter my 10th week tomorrow. Diet is dialed in (cheat meal once a week) and I thought so was my routine but I just got this nagging feeling that something is amiss?

• I recently changed to a bro split after years of PPL, which involves 3 x 15rep sets of CE/ROM exercises at medium weights at least 5 times weekly.

•• At the end of May I have to go to an event in Spain and so the goal is cutting after I finish the final 2 weeks of this cycle.

Would like to read your comments and learn from any advice :-)

PrimoPantani's picture

I want to say up front, great job. You’ve made some progress physically and I can tell you’ve learned a lot since you first started posting a few months back. Most importantly, you actually took the advice offered to you which says a lot about your character.
But, and this isn’t me critiquing you personally, how are sone of you guys putting on like 6kg a cycle? My first cycle (500 test, 15 weeks) I put on 18kg. I’m currently up like 12kg in 8 weeks on my current cycle and still looking decently lean. Is it all diet? I was a big eater before roids and can put down 5k cals a day without trying while eating clean. Or is there a metabolic component, like do sone guys just process and use AAS differently in the tissue?

lacie's picture

I am in week 9 of a ?? length of cycle, so for me 3kg (with all the injuries) is not bad, but I get ya since I have no reference. Got my Test P and Winstrol (because dammit I have these orals so I am going to use them) all lined up for a segue into a cut cycle.

lacie's picture

I need to eat more, after reading your post. I work out but had 3-4 major setbacks (2nd degree groin pull 2mo heal, moto accident 1 mo heal, bike theft 1w trauma, hand surgery still healing 1mo later) so I am keeping a super low profile and trying to optimise in my diet.

PrimoPantani's picture

Bro, for real I wasn’t hating on you at all. I wish I could lean bulk like that but it’s like when I flip into bulk mode it’s balls to the wall.

lacie's picture

all good, no worries. I so wanted to go full sack this time I was snake bit for a minute. So what's the cycle yer now looking like? You use any peptides??

PrimoPantani's picture

500 test 350 npp 300 eq 5 iu gh. I’ve been looking into some peptides that other members have talked about on here but nothing currently. I’m gonna post some progress pics from this cycle here in the next couple weeks or whenever I can talk my wide into snapping a few for me. Keep up the good work bud.

smurfdude1234567's picture

I’ve seen a lot worse for a first cycle, and you will continue to learn.

You’ve already came a long way compared to when you first came on here asking some stuff.

You definitely added some lean mass.

But onto the pressing question… you ever get your bike back or did they catch the doucher? LOL!

lacie's picture

Bro they caught the MF and he's going to jail for a bit. Thanks for asking!

CRAZY DOSER's picture

No need to stimulate fertility until the cycle is complete. Focus on aerobic exercise for cutting: do fasted cardio in the morning for 45–60 minutes at a heart rate appropriate for fat burning for your age. Drink at least 1.5L of water during each cardio session. Gradually increase the intensity to avoid adaptation.

If you need pharm. support during this period, use TNE at 50 mg 45–60 minutes before your cardio session, or Testosterone Phenylpropionate at 50–100 mg/EOD

If cramps occur, consider magnesium and potassium supplements.

lacie's picture

I have Test P on stand by, with plenty of Winstrol 10mg orals I stopped taking because it was my first cycle. Any thoughts? Thanks man!

CRAZY DOSER's picture

I think Winstrol is not needed for your goals. Looking at the pic, there's no point in overloading your cycles with extra compounds (this also applies to future bulking cycles).
Focus on cardio + diet + an effective split (volume training). You have decent genetics. Use that to your advantage. Read more, think, and look for the most effective individual options, and everything will be ok.

lacie's picture

thanks will do more reading. So all this Winstrol is for the bin?

egycobra73's picture

Taking into account that your source is legit, acne & hair loss usually depend on the person's respond and the toxicity of the different compounds you're stacking. Since you're only using Test, you shouldn't always get major (external) side effects. Dosage plays a huge role as well.

To address nip sensitivity, you don't seem to have gyno but it's something that you can build up over time if not treated with caution specially if you're a heavy aromatizer. Have you checked your e2 levels? are you taking any AI during your cycle?

For me, I had to learn the hard way, and for too long I thought I had gyno because I was injecting 700mg test without getting blood done. It was my first high dosage cycle and presumed that I will be fine based on my 200 and 400mg cycles. I didn't adjust my AI properly for the 700mg cycle and ended up getting wrinkly, saggy looking nips until I checked my e2 levels and it came back way above borderline. I ended up decreasing my dosage to 500mg/week and upped my AI gradually until I found my sweet spot and chest overall looked great and full again. I saw an endocrinologist and he said I don't have any glands in my chest at all which were the most relieving news I've ever heard lol.

Overall, looking great. arms, chest, wrists, shoulders looking jacked. Got some packs definition which is awesome. If I were you, I wouldn't neglect my e2 levels and check it out sooner than later and I'd line up my AI accordingly.

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lacie's picture

I just started taking 20mg daily of Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) and will be integrating HCG soon. The source is legit and you are keen to point out the wrist thickness. its funny what I have noticed changing in the past 2mo, and my wrists are one. I ride a motorcycle with a snug fitting Vanson Leathers jacket, and now the ends of the sleeves feel more snug.
I got to get back to the lab for some work so after the next 2 weeks I will.

So for that gyno you had, what was the timeline on the symptoms, treatment and recovery?