posted Thu, 05/16/2024 - 12:09
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Sterility of air injected into vials
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I’ve been on 120mg a week of test cyp prescribed for about a year now and I’ve been considering switching to ugl because it’s so much cheaper.
The thing is that my old script gave 1mL vials and these guys come in 10 sometimes 20mL vials.
How safe is it to inject air into these vials if I plan on long term use of the vial. It’ll take like 20 weeks to use a 250mg 10mL vial on my dose. Injecting air would introduce a non sterile element into the vial.
Anyone have any experience with this? I know there is sterilizing elements included in the oil so maybe it’s fine. Just curious how you guys are doing it.
I can’t find anything online so I assume it’s fine, but better safe than sorry you know.
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Reminds me of those OF girls that sell farts in a jar.
Ba/bb youll be fine. Youve run cycles with ugl cooked in someones dirty oven. Youll live! The pre-pin is your sterility. Swab top, swab body part and dont breath etc onto pin.
I think you are over thinking something that is a non issue.
The air you use to offset the vacuum is the same we healthy breathe in and out all day. As long as the product is sterile and you have taken adequate precautions, alcohol wipes for the top of vial and pin area, all should be fine.
Ive been putting cape cod air into my bottles for over 10 years and my doctor still tells me im her healthiest patient that month. So natural air must be good. Just think you breath it all day unfiltered and it enters your blood from your lungs anyway. What we put a ml of air in? Nothing compared to what you breath when your working out in the gym breathing strangers ass sweat air
I need some of that canned air. Who is your air guy?
Ive actually seen Cape Cod air bottled. They get the tourists to buy it
Is your profile pic a Honey Badger? If so you shouldn't be worried about pressurized air lol. You tuff as nails!!
As far as the air you're mentioning, when giving an injection air bubbles at times can be seen within the vial so it isn't as bad as one would think. Just depends. But of course I wouldn't purposely inject a bunch of air in my oils just for the hell of it.
I mean not for the hell of it but yes I inject air into it so that it replaces the oil removed and doesn’t create a strong vacuum.
This is what I’m asking about.
Yes you’re supposed to inject the air in to create air pressure and to offset the vacuum. You can just not do it if you’re really concerned but you’ll be drawing up FOREVER. I saw one guy on YouTube actually suck the air out with another syringe after drawing up his shot, but he wasn’t worried about bacteria he was doing it to try and minimize the amount of denaturing that could happen because it was a peptide, so he wanted to expose it to as little air as possible.
Either way I wouldn’t be too worried about it. Also there is the BA and BB to prevent growth, so you’re all good.
Any injectable solution whether it's UGL or pharma is going to contain (or should contain) 2% BA (UGL) or as low as 0.9% BA which is the pharma standard for sterile. This is widely accepted as "what it takes" to produce a sterile solution. So when you push air into the vial, generally speaking, what comes into contact with the solution will be rendered sterile as far as wild yeast, airborne spores and bacteria, etc. This does not hold true for liquids since introducing liquid would effectively increase the total volume of the solution thereby effectively decreasing the percentage of solubilized BA and bring it below the percentage needed to make a sterile solution.
Even if you don't push air inside to balance the vacuum when you pull oil out, eventually the septum will become porous and the vacuum (negative pressure inside) will be so great that air bubbles will start to suck themselves in when you are drawing or after you draw. Air will still get in. The bigger problem you have is that a lot of people use 20mL vials to inject bigger, ie. 2-3cc's at a time. Injecting 2cc's means only ten holes in your rubber septum. If you are hitting 1cc every time, you have up to 20 holes in your septum and by the end of the vial your septum looks like my liver in my late 30's. This is a bigger issue as far as sanitation is concerned.
Yeah I am aware of BA I just didn’t know if it would maintain sterility.
Anything above 0.9%. Yep.
Hope your liver doing well lol!
Good explanation and accurate too. Hell I think the bigger issue is folks not sanitizing or improperly sanitizing before taking a shot. Man I can imagine guys laying their needles on the counter or anywhere for that matter, being in a hurry to inject. Folks don't seem to think about that. Bacteria is everywhere
It is now brother. Thank you. I made some bad decisions back in the day (see me in the Recovery Lounge LOL)
Do you know that toilets throw something like an 8 foot radius of particles in the air when they flush? Prison toilets are like 15 feet. Don't ask me how I know that. After learning that, and what staph infection looks like, I stopped pinning in the bathroom altogether.
“fecal plume”
Hahahahaha I could never partake in the chocolate fondue fountain at a wedding simply for hygienic reasons. But now I can't look at one either. Sucks that there's an actual name for it. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah it’s gnarly to contemplate
Doesn't get much simpler than that... bacteria grenades
My bro used make a blowgun and shit dart his enemies in prison when he couldn’t get his hands on them
LOL so fucked
I've heard the stories. Ain't that crazy though. Hepatitis on speed dial huh?
Lol, hepatitis is like the common cold in prison
Haha. I can believe that
Does the Blast radius change if its a diaretic shite?
Lmao idk, but if you’ve ever (every man has) flushed and then watched to see if you shit was gonna make it down….
I did earlier - I gave it a 50/50 chance of making it past the U-bend as my water pressure ain't so good in this warm weather
Andy Dufrain - Crawled through a river of shit I cannot even bare to imagine .....
I try and synchronize my poop with my flush
lol, I had to google that one Press, movie references usually go over my head
Nah I like to inspect the goods afterwards. You can tell a lot from a turd - like if your liver is well, possible bowl cancer, hydration levels, fibre intake, recent Iron intake etc.
Ever had to catch a turd and take a sample/scraping? Thats a humbling experience Lmao
DO NOT tell me you have never seen The Shawshank Redemption!
Lmfao Press, I have. End of last year I had a colon/endoscopy. They wanted a sample. I got a whole kit that came with everything you needed. The catchers mitt thing you stretch out over the toilet and the little spoons and vials
No, I haven’t. Although, that’s one that people reference like your entire life seems like so most of the time I understand. Usually has to do with prison rape I believe. Just never heard the crawling through shit part yet lol
Man you lucky bastard - We don't have half that equipment over here to do a home turd inspection! I literally got a scraper that took a tiny little rectangular block out of it together with a tube to go in. I had to do it where I layered the bog with toilet paper and then landed the baby on the side of the bowl on the shoulder. I swear it was like launching an A-Bomb just right with arse positioned over the right hand side LMAO
Yeh I was getting some worrying pains in my colon that I got worried over about a year ago when a turdulator was waddling his way through my colon, so convinced myself I had colon cancer and was saying my final prayers each night! Did the test and waited but heard nothing back which over here means you are all clear. I think I just still have an extra tight colon and Anus LMFAO!!!!
You had to land your Cessna on the side of a hill?! wtf, Press, lmfao I’m dying right now. They gave me a little thing that stretched over the seat like a pair of panties, hung down and caught my dump mid air. Then I put on the gloves and went to work with the little plastic silverware set
Yeah, I got paranoid over some of bloodwork and ended getting myself DP’d but it was worth it. They said I have the GI tract of a newborn and I got pictures to prove it
HAHAHAHA LMFAO
Man I'm jealous - So basically you got to 'erect' a toilet trampoline! In all honesty though, it is quite grim doing it isn't it. I had to try not think about what I was physically doing as it is just wrong dissecting ones own shite lol
Bro thats hardcore, after that you went off and did some DP??!!
Yeah, I had the endoscopy and colonoscopy procedure on the same day
And yeah, it was grim collecting those samples. Then I had to them in a box, then another envelope that said “biohazard” and take the package down to be mailed off
Yeah!!! Hahaha I think my bag was labelled something along those lines. Still it can't be worse than looking up peoples arses all day long with a camera, I mean just imagine some of them. Probably half eroded Double cheesers wedged up there! I always wonder what the doctors feel like when someone comes into ER with something like a broken butt plug or hose pipe that won't come out LMAO
Yeah I know right? Like these people picked that profession and worked their ass off for it. Well, bless their heart cause someone’s gotta do it.
Same with the dudes who’s sole job is to observe other men take piss tests for parole or probation. There’s only one reason why you do that job for minimum wage
Thing is mate its the Medical profession, its great money if you don't mind doing it ultimately. Most people in that line of work love helping people too and saving them so I have a tonne of respect for people like that. I don't think they feel embarrassment either, they are fascinated by every part of the human body. Same as being a dentist really - could you look into human mouths all day long pulling teeth etc I imagine a lot of it is grim but those people love it. I wish I liked it because £10k a month is a nice little wage for sure.
Yeah that is true and the work isn’t exactly back breaking
Hey Guess what mate - We are getting Chick Fil A, Carls Jr, Wendy's and Dave's Hot Chicken Restaurants over in the UK soon!!!
anvilThat was a joke they said you are fat enough already in the UK, got redacted.
JK I remember eating fast food.....
Seriously mate - we are not a patch on Obese Americans for size, you may see one or 2 big uns here but they are rare walking around. Over in the US I saw some huge monsters who almost seemed proud of it LOL
Ya like Sparta said, the only one you need to worry yourself about is the Chick-fil-A. That’s the only fast food I eat. Their breakfast is also amazing.
The McDonalds version of a breakfast over here is one of the most unfortunate things you could possibly try, undercooked bacon or sausages in a bun and they charge the earth for it. Many people love it but damn I wish they would just make their normal menu all day instead.
The hash brown scramble burrito at Chick-fil-A is amazing with the jalapeño salsa. Egg white grill is good too, especially for cutting 300 cals a pop with like 35g protein. Enjoy both so much that I now make copycat versions myself at home….because I want bigger portions. Yea that’s right American portions aren’t big enough for me as it is
You are going to have to make this and show us sometime bud, I'm curious to see it and knowing you it'll look really good too LOL I did actually have a Jacket potato today with Chicken Tikka and cheese filling but don't tell Sparta as he will want to see the photo, I took one but in all honesty it looked quite a sorry affair LMAO
What. The. Fuck. Press1
My wife loves chicken tikka masala. Asks me to make it all the time. A potato filled with that would be pretty damn good.
Oh God yeah its one of the top fillings over here, lots of people get it in baguettes with lettuce. Another great one they do is Chinese Chicken with that strange 5 spice sauce lol
I’m pretty sure Chick-fil-A is going to change your life