posted Sun, 11/05/2023 - 10:51
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Anavar/Winny for 8 weeks to fast cut before a competition.
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Hello,
I would like to know if stacking 20mg of Anavar + 20mg of Winny for 8 weeks (w/ Tudca & NAC) could retain mass in a deficit of 1000-1400 calories per days in order to lose 20lbs under the 8 weeks? I'm also thinking of using tren, but now I'm blasting Primo/Test and bulking, so I would maybe run the tren 2 weeks before the end of my blast, so when I finish my Primo/Test stack, I'm (maybe?) already feeling the tren, and then cut?
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Jonathan22You're someone really helpful.
Just saved you a bunch of time and money informing you that doing that won't be successful. You're welcome.
Jonathan22The others did it, not you.
This is from your other post.
“I've done a blast with a surplus of 500 calories on test/primo for 3 years straight”
Come on fella, you’re going to make a total mess of yourself. A “3 year blast”, now you’re going to throw more gear at it to drop BF in a rush.
The guys here are subtly trying try I tell you it won’t work. Time for you to take a step back and reevaluate how you’re going about this.
Jonathan22I'm doing a blood work every 4 weeks, and a heart check every 4-6 months and everything is good, it's just primo/test, it shouldn't really hurt me, even for 3 years straight.
Sorry, Bro, but I don’t think that is even possible. If you have 20lbs of fat, why are you even considering a competition? I’m not trying to be a dick, but your goals are a little far fetched. I’ve got a least 12 pounds of unwanted fat, and I couldn’t even imagine myself signing up for a show. I think my immediate family would hide my car keys that day, LOL
Jonathan22You're right bro, I will definitely skip this competition and do the one that come the next year, so I can do a clean slow cut, just with a deficit, I will retain my mass and stay healthy, no need to use drugs for cutting honestly.
Smart move, although, I never said not to use drugs for a cut. I’d be the biggest hypocrite ever. My advice was more geared toward competing. A healthy diet and exercise is the best way to cut, but not all of us follow every practical rule.
As I advised you in a different post, Makwa posted a great protocol for cutting 10lbs of fat in 30 days. It’s definitely not an easy protocol, but if you’re disciplined enough, this can get you half way there
This is the most sensible thing I've seen you write thusfar. +1
One of those guys who thinks he can compete without a coach eh….good luck
Jonathan22Honestly, I know how to prepare my body to be ready on stage, but I just don't know a lot about the anti catabolic drugs, I've never used a drug to cut before, always a deficit, and I still don't want to use a drug to cut because it's really dumb and useless, but here I don't get enough time to be dry on stage, so yeah I think I will skip that one and just go to the competition next year.
Only guy that could possibly do that is you lol!
Unless your body fat is under 10% there’s no chance of you being ready to step on stage in 8 weeks. Assuming you’re talking about bodybuilding. And you should never go from a “bulk” into a “fast cut” unless you care to lose everything you might have gained. Pump all the drugs you want. This isn’t even a reasonable post to respond to with a suggestion.
Wait until you have minimum 12. Preferred 16+ weeks. If you’re actually serious about competing. And then it comes down to caloric deficit. Eating properly. Getting your energy expenditure in. And preferably minimal drugs to achieve the desired result.
You again, we already told you it's not going to happen without losing muscle mass...
Jonathan22"We already told you", sorry, who are you?
They call me Big Dick on the streets, nice to meet ya fella.
Making many forums to hear somethjng thats untrue. Beating a dead horse. Go do it. Your minds set. Just dont cry when you fail.
April may june when big contests happen. That has its potentials.
Jonathan22How you want someone to fail a cut on tren?
He doesn’t want you to fail, Bro, he knows you’re going to. You just bulked, so a cut immediately afterwards just won’t work no matter what drugs you use. All you’re going to lose is water weight and some of the muscle you may have just gained.
Jonathan22I don't understand, why would I lose more mass right after a bulk, than if the bulk was a few months ago (with the exact same deficit/training)?
My must have understood your post. I could swear that I read that you were still on the bulk, and consider throwing Tren in for the last two weeks.
Jonathan22I wanted to finish my bulk on test/primo, and cut right after with tren, but run tren the last two weeks of my bulk so I already feel it right after my bulk, but I was planning to run the tren for 10 weeks in total, and so 8 weeks in the cut.
Just do it.....
You can lead a horse to water, Bro, but ……