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+ 2 This is my journey as a hard gainer

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Sup fellas,

Plenty of good threads in this section on hard gainers. First sticky especially. I am a true hard gainer and follow all the rules. I do everything right but sometimes you need to do a little extra to figure out what's going on in your body. Tips below should helps supplement the already great info in this section.

I eat every 2-3 hours. Even in the middle of the night. I have insomnia so this might not work as well for you if you sleep hard. I eat dinner fairly early and noticed I'd wake up about 8# less in the am and then work to get it back up throughout the day. Eating while I got up in the middle of the night helped this. Protein shake, oatmeal, tuna and rice. These are the things I'd eat when I'd wake up.

I eat clean af.
Check my other thread for what I'm eating. Pics and description.
https://www.eroids.com/group/a-league-of-not-so-extraordinary-gentlemen/...

In the AM I make egg white, oatmeal, waffles, and coffee. Every damn day. I make my oatmeal with water... Added honey for sweetness and a fruit in the oatmeal. I usually do blueberries or strawberries. Egg white I usually buy the 32oz carton. One will last me 3 mornings. I eat this meal twice. Once when I wake up and again 2 hrs later. Why these specific items? Oatmeal is going to help remove bad cholesterol in your body. If you're juicing and eating protein shakes ..you'll benefit from this. Eggs whites for a similar reason. If you eat whole eggs everyday that cholesterol will add up. And of course you need a solid carb in the AM...so waffles are good for this.

Lunches/Dinners (I eat two each)
I have a rice cooker I've had for 25 years. Works great and cooks alot of white rice. I eat rice with all of my meals except breakfast. With the rice I have a protein that I've either bought (grocery store roasted whole chicken), or cooked at home (duck, salmon, snapper, tuna, beef, chicken breasts, lamb, pork, etc). Sometimes I'll add a green but if you're juicing you need to watch the greens that have vitamin k..they will thicken your blood and increase the risk of strokes and clots (broccoli spinach things like that have high vitamin k). So I add them in occasional. I'll eat things like green beans and what not. Otherwise it's just rice, potatoes, maybe some fruit and the above mentioned protein. I eat this same setup throughout the day. Two lunches and two dinners.

Protein shakes
Gotta have em. 300-400g of protein a day for me. I try to get the majority of that from food and use the shakes to supplement. Two in the day time with double the scoops and one in the middle of the night. Try to save one for post workout.

Cardio
If you are a true hard gainer and are on a bulk cycle..keep cardio to a minimum. I do a warmup every time I walk into the gym. Half a mile at 4mph on a treadmill with a hard incline. Get the blood pumping..then hit weights hard. Overdo the cardio and you'll be burning all the calories you ate...so no marathons or 10ks please. Sprints work too but don't overdo it.

Sleep.
This is my troubled spot. I have insomnia from the military. I fall asleep fine but don't stay asleep. To help get enough sleep I try and take a nap here for there. If you don't get enough rest you won't be building back those muscle fibers like you should be. Rest is important af.

Working out
Hard gainers should be lifting on the heavy side. 5 days or gym sessions a week minimum . 2-a-days for faster results. I usually go twice a day 3 times a week. Leave one rest day during the week. All other days once a day. Heavier weight and lower rep for bulk. 4-10 reps is where you wanna be. I typically start at 12 reps...up the weight the next set and lower reps by 2 reps. Rinse repeat til you get down to 4 or 6 reps. This give me good bulk while keeping some definition while I add weight. Everyone is different so tailor this to your own body.

Hope this helps the hard gainers. I struggled with it for years and found a sure fire way to add quality mass and keep it.

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Added a link to my food thread.

wanted's picture

Do you take apple cider vinegar or say berbarine supplements to help with digestion

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None of that. Really dont have digestion issues aside from heart burn. I have tums for that. My absorption is pretty good.

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I spent a month training my stomach/ body to take that much food. Did this in my 20s too. I was miserable for a month. Always looking pregnant. Body adjusted, don't look pregnant when I eat now and food absorption is on point. Gotta stick with it, eat the same times everyday... You're body will know what to do. I try to explain eat times like this... Your body doesnt know if it's starving on a deserted island or at an all day Buffett. Eating the same times everyday gives your body a schedule and a garantee that it's gonna get it's food when required.

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Sometimes, eating that frequently will actually boost your metabolism to help shed weight. Esp if you're eating that clean....don't get me wrong for gaining lean muscle mass you need as many calories as you can, but don't be afraid to throw a "wrench" as I call it in your diet. Very big uncomfortable meals like the buffet or a real cheat meal can help you gain more mass in the long run. Your body gets used to your protocol, so changing it up so often can lead to quality gains IMO. Great job so far tho bro.

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This is true. If I were trying to lose weight and speed up my metabolism, smaller portions tend to do it. Eating this often and gaining has always required that I eat big portions. 2 a days will also speed up your metabolism, so adjust calories according. ;-)

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A little experience with diet and exercise in my earlier days.

Military boot. I went in skinny af. Two days after graduating high school
...122#. Came out 155#. Not a huge jump in 2.5 months but significant. We had guys in my division that weighed 330# when they got off that bus. Some big and fat. Some skinny. Some average. We all ate the same thing and did the same PT (physical training). Skinny guys gained alot of weight and the fat guys lost a ton. I watched a guy go from 330# to 175# in 2.5 months. My point here is this.... Dial in that diet and train hard, doesn't matter if you're a hard gainer or a hard loser. There are formulas out there that work for alot more than just one body type.

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If you are a hardgainer forget about eating clean and skip the cardio. Glad you found some success.

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The older I get the more important it is to eat clean. And my wife always cook at home so I have to really put forth the effort to eat like shit.

wanted's picture

Whens the abs gona start poppping out
Also whats your total daily macros

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Don't really have to try hard for abs. I skip a meal and they come thru just fine. Always good to have a bit extra. I do MMA and if I'm absolutely shredded with damn near zero bf....my stamina suffers.

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Okay

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Sorry missed the macros. Total macros....I don't keep up with it. I don't count calories, nutrients or anything else except protein. I guess I could but I already had the formula for gaining clean mass... So it would be overkill for me. I don't weigh out my portions either. I eye ball all of em. Not the most scientific way... But I can tell when I've had enough food and tend to eat every bite so my system is working for me.

Check my thread called "You gonna eat that?". I'm logging my meals so you guys can see what in eating.

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Roger that.

TABMEISTER's picture

You're trolling right?

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AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

What makes you say that?

Might look at my pics the last 6 months. Results speak for themselves.

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I think he’s the one trying to troll lol

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