posted Wed, 10/13/2021 - 16:57
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Hey guys,
I try to gain lean muscle since a year now using 500mg test/week. I will continue the test because i feel great on it without any sides.
I gained 6 kg at the same bf% but i stopped growing since four months. I only gained like 0.5kg during this time.
Im eating 3000-3500 kcal with 200g of protein per day now. I started my bulk with 2500kcal/day and gradually increased it.
Training with an upper/lower split 5 times per week.
Since i dont want to add other compounds or increase the dose, what would be your suggestions for making further progress?
There must be many people with the same problem. So im curious for your experiences.
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I'd start by eat in a slight surplus ie 300 then adjust/increase every week if necessary probably working up to about 500 above possibly 1000 above
Why dpnt you want to add a compound
What does your complete diet look like? Carbs help transport protein so if u are looking to grow you must eat carbs . I know that for me i did 400mg /wk on a blast and i grew a bit, hardened up and got a bit leaner , however once i started eating MORE carbs i started to grow . On my pct i kept 6lbs . Been on trt for years and only recently did a pct to clean out my receptors because my trt dose only produces fair results and i figured it was time for a 6wk reset before a blast. I also feel that when i get in 2 meals or more and workout vs fasting w/o i grow more.
essie007I think we should try starting 500 kcals on maintenance and adjust accordingly
Proper diet even with beginner cycle should get you big results. Bloodwork for that year you've been on to see if you're healthy ahould be priority. Best of health to you
Never cycle longer than 12 weeks really not doing u any good tht eat correctly get 7/8 hours sleep a nite an a decent 6 months of the gear then run a new cycle test only is not tht good 4 big gains u will need another steriod alongside an u shud get good results
More food, or modifying your training?
RustyhookerAdjusting calories is first. New muscle...new cal demands
agree
When hitting a plateau, I always recommend switching something up. Either train more or less, eat more, sleep/recover more, or maybe try a new training split. I am a firm believer in shocking the body every once in awhile.
I think you missed a comma there.
Rustyhookerhttps://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/simple-pct-...
Pharma...real pharma imo....
AirborneGruntHow much time would you guys allow between cycles? I know everyone’s body/gear dose has to be taken in account, but in general? Thanks!
TricepatopsI been told time on equals time off but I could be wrong. Time on plus pct equals time off. I have never had to do it because I was on TRT before I did anything. Probably someone who does cycle off completely can give you a better idea.
Rustyhooker12 week cycle + pct = time off. Bloods before starting will be a better indicator.
AirborneGruntThanks brother!
RustyhookerSend a friend request too. Have a great night
Molinin302I'd take some time off from the drugs. Not sure I'd bother with PCT, just see what your body does on its own to recover. This was an incredibly long time to run that much testosterone. Too many say (and I'll bit my tongue on associated topics) that 500mg test is a great beginner cycle. Which it is. But it's not without risks after 12-16 weeks. A year? You may have shut down your body. Take a break and get bloodwork done. Never rule out consulting a physician. Best wishes buddy, hope you didn't fry yourself.
RustyhookerDefinitly run a full blown hard pct. Its most likely his natty levels are fried but at least give it a go. Going from a year cycle to 0 test will be a cliff of bad sides. Bad depression, muscle loss, lethargic etc. It would literally be like going from cycle to nothing emotionally. The bad things that let us know we needed trt.
AirborneGruntWhat would you recommend for a standard PCT? For someone who runs cycles properly..
RustyhookerClick on your picture...Groups....first cycles group gas a ton of info. Definitly read a lot in here so your vision is clear. Were always here to help but have an understanding so the help is well planned
https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/simple-pct-...
AirborneGruntAwesome and understood. Thank you again Rusty!!
Molinin302Duly noted and approved.
RustyhookerAnother sad story on eroids. Ugh. Hope that others read and learn.
Molinin302They will read, but too often the problem is they see see guys bitching about sources. Usually it's a shill beating up a source to promote one they're getting free drugs from. Soo... these guys get it into their head that the 500mg of test a week, plus whatever they're not being upfront about (orals make a difference) and have a fucked diet or workout plan. Meanwhile the test they thought was 200mgml, was actually closer to 300mgml. They sell real drugs here, and it's to be respected. Unless you want garbanzo bean balks like mine lol (happened before steroid use, benzodiazipines and ssri prescription from a Dr shit me off)
RustyhookerToo true! I learned the hard way to avoid sources full of drama. Learning curves...ugh! Lol! Wild west at times
Your body has climatized to 500mg Test per week, that's what has happened. You've basically run a beginner cycle for a year. The best thing to do would be to take a good break from gear in general and get bloodwork done to see the state of your organs such as liver enzyme levels, creatinine (kidneys)
blood haemoglobin. hemocrit and BP etc. Your levels will only be slightly elevated I predict as its only Test you have run. Get things normalised again and then when you cycle again add in NPP or Deca and you will see new growth over and above what you did on test only. You can eat all the amount of protein you want, but you will only see a certain level of anabolism just from test that allows it to be converted into muscle. Test isn't really that much of an anabolic on its own.
Rustyhookersince a year now using 500mg test/week. I will continue the test because i feel great on it without any sides
A year long cycle....
On cycle for year and gained 6 kilo. Sorry to break the bad news but that 6 kilo is due to glycogen loading and not muscle mass. Steroids cant build something from nothing. Eat like a bird and you will look like a bird. Your diet is clearly the issue here. You may feel great but what is really happening to you on the inside is likely a totally different story. On cycle for an entire year I am sure your bloodwork would tell a different story. You need to get off cycle, reboot your system and start over from scratch with the first step learning how to eat to build muscle. You are doing much more harm then good continuing on like you are.
No sides, doesn't mean your ok. 52 weeks on test 500mg is a long time. Get some bloodwork and research pct. You are going down a dangerous path especially at a young age.
So many things wrong here.
1) You have been on a 500mg Test cycle for a year, (16 weeks is generally regarded as max)
2) Diet,....... how you gain weight at a daily maintenance calorie intake is beyond me. Try 5000 cal.
Generally, you don't know what your doing. So,........... STOP!!
And hit the gym hard these are not magic pills.
Order a PCT kit because I'm sure you don't have one.