+ 4 Converting Injectable Oral to Oral Oral dosages
So I’ve combed the search function and haven’t found a real answer to this, let me know if I missed anything and please link if so.
Injectable orals have become more available over the last 5-10 years. With that I think we need to re-evaluate how we dose them, since the bioavailability of an injectable 17aa steroid is different from taking it orally.
My broscience and basic research has turned up an ESTIMATED 1:2 ratio of injectable to oral dose. So you can take half your normal dose with an inject and get the same benefits as the oral without upsetting your stomach. Also the half life should be about double with an inject vs an oral because of the depot and going off the oral vs injectable half lives of winstrol.
To clarify, if you usually take 50 mgs of Dbol preworkout, you may be able to switch to injectable and take only 25 mgs.
Does anyone know of any research that has been done or want to share any of their own experiences comparing the two?
I am fairly accustomed to taking 75 mgs of anadrol as a preworkout without sides, but the injectable version at 50mg started to give me a little gyno flare so I do believe it to be stronger and longer acting than its oral counterpart.
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After years of using the Injectable versions, imo I think it depends more on the compounds you are using. It can also be thrown slightly off by the actual dosing within the vial rather than whats stated on it. I've often found where Dbol is concerned that although it states 50mg/ml it feels and performs like it is much higher, around the 80mg/ml mark. Those that are 100mg/ml are the most accurate in that department. To me 40mg of Dbol Inject brings the same gains as the Oral version, but it definitely takes longer to enter the blood than tablets do and doesn't hit as hard.
Anadrol Inject on the other hand, I think 50mg Inject works the same as 100mg of Tabs. Takes a few days to build same as the tabs do versus Dbol which hits the same day if you build it up with enough carbs before training. Halo Inject just hurts too damn much to pin, tried twice and pretty much cried each time Lol You can't get it higher than 5mg/ml either! Superdrol Inject I personally had much better superman like gains off the tabs than the inject by far, but at the same time the stomach ache became too much after several days. I think the latest Sdrol Injects are much better now though.
If you plan on using either compound for 4 to 6 weeks I'd go with the tablets, over 6 weeks & if you get bad stomach acid reflux or irritation of the stomach lining go for the Inject. Its so unnoticeable after a few days you forget you are running the compound if you put it in the barrel with other compounds. Tabs are so much easier to take pre-workout than pinning each time too. One thing to be aware of is the Inject still hits the liver as hard as the tabs do so still make sure to run liver support as it can be easy to forgot when injecting it.
Injectable halo?!? Fucking hell I’ve never even heard of that. Must take a lot of solvents to get it to hold.
I’d love to try injectable SD one of these days, never touched the oral version either.
Next on my list is methyl tren if I get lean enough this fall.
That’s a good point about not forgetting your liver support. Thank you for sharing some experiences!
I've done Transdermal Halo and SD
Is that some DMSO preparation you spread on your skin?
How did you find your results?
I bought it from a lab about 6 months ago. I don't know what their formula is. It is highly probable that DMSO is in it. It worked it great. I definitely felt it after administering it. I would get a warm feeling. The results were on par with orals but less harsh. I wasn't pissing that toxic waste that I would get from taking oral SD. The key to transdermal is to apply it to an area with no body hair and that won't rub off on other people. I would put in on my shins and the top of my feet. I am a big fan of transdermal and have made my own before with Test and tren base.
The Halo was more or less in pure Guaiacol Lol Could smell it before even opening the package, thats the maximum dosage they can suspend lol
Methyltren I have tried, but I found I felt very weird on it. Just didn't sit right and the fact I knew what was inside was so toxic I just went back to tren ace for my sins. I've seen a lot do well on it though.
Superdrol tabs are pretty amazing, in fact wickedly amazing its just a case of being able to handle them
Bro just hit the 50mg injectable... (waves hands)
Double the dose baby
Pew pew pew!!!! Lmao
I would be also interested in hearing people’s anecdotal experience as well as any scientific back studies people can cite as we were chatting and you gave me advice on this last week so any new info would be welcome.
I would also agree with D and you with the 1:2 ratio, at least with superdrol but I would also say it brings a whole new edge to it, anecdotally I wouldn’t be able to accomplish the same gains with the oral version as I could the injectable. The thickness, 3D look and explosive mass is nothing like the oral even at 3x the dose of the injectable. 30mg/oral - 10mg/injectable, it’s a completely different beast
The issue is every oral has a different bioavailability. I've seen some orals in the 90 plus percent. Anavar for example has a 97% bioavailability so it doesn't make any sense to inject it. It wouldn't be cost effective.Overall I don't consider orals to be worth the investment in injectable form. It is hard to get the exact bioavailability of all the oral steroids. Therefore it will be difficult to calculate the appropriate dosage. Plus you are already injecting oils. Who the hell wants to inject every day on top of their regular injections
I know I was just doing 10mg superdrol inject and I was slammed with lethargy by day 6. Usually I make it to day 13-14 when taking 10mg oral SD, so the broscience logic is there lol.
Good topic brother ++
Man my biggest issue with these types of injects have always been the prices. I just couldn't ever get my head around with the fact of paying that much for 10 days worth of product. I guess if the half life is extended enough for every other day use, I might be able to talk my self into that. Lol. I've found topics similar to what you've found but I couldn't ever get a definitive answer on exactly how much longer the half life is.