posted Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:36
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Testosterone Propionate Pip
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I decided to try test prop 250 eod for 2 wks to kick off my test e deca cycle and the reaction has been so unbearable I can barely even walk let alone get out of bed. I feel like I have a severe muscle tear in both my quads and they swol up like fucking balloons so bad my wife has to dress me lol. Idk anyway the reaction has been so bad thus far I will never consider using it again. I often heard the pip from prop was bad but this is debilitating has anybody had this extreme of a reaction?
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"Let’s say it takes the body 24 hours to absorb 1mL of a certain oil/solvent blend, and 24 hours to absorb 50mg of Testosterone Propionate. If 50mg (or less) of testosterone propionate is in 1mL of that oil, this injection should be painless. On the other hand, if 100mg of testosterone propionate is in that same 1mL of solution, then after 24 hours the body will have absorbed 50mg and 1mL, leaving 50mg behind in the injection area, crystallized and painful.
It is better to shoot 3mL of 50mg/mL Testosterone Propionate than 1mL of 150mg/ML Testosterone Propionate."
Why do people have an uncontrollable urge to respond to a 9 year old thread???
Because I did not see an answer addressing the actual reason or solution for PIP with Test Prop.
RustyhookerProp 250 was made to blend. Lotta pip forums if you need help. I ran the 250...loved it....
I've done a 150mg/ml prop and it was bearable. 250mg/ml is insane. The amount of solvent needed would be very high. Would mostly likely have to be EO based too. Couldn't pay me to inject that.
Prop can be rough at 100 mg/ml but concentrated at 250 is going to be unbearable. I tried one blend at 175 mg/ml and was in the same condition you are in. If you mix it 1:1 with test-e or Deca or a sterile carrier oil it should knock out most of the PIP. Just make sure you keep your weekly dosage the same (ie don't do your regular test-e/Deca injections) if you mix it with that. In the future I would suggest avoiding prop concentrated above 100 mg/ml.
Hello, I'm taking Test Prop for 3 pins per week. I am getting a little swelling like golf ball size. But the pain afterwards lasts for 3-4 days. it's like a painful bruise or something. Not that I can't function but still hurts. Is this normal for Test Prop? My gear is from the #6 supplier on the source list. I love the way I feel on the Test Prop it's just the PIP I have. I've been injecting my thighs and upper backside in rotation. I also take Test Cyp for TRT and have not PIP at all.
do you use some other positions from same brand? cyp from same brand?
it can be individual reaction on prop or on oil
Hey Zeus, my Test Cyp and Test Prop come from different suppliers. I get no PIP from my Test Cyp.
Ha prop 250 packs a fucking punch I would imagine!
LMFAO,............ and you got PIP you say, more balls than brains, imho.
Vagisil,............. might help your pussy, .................and Prop 250, dump the high mg gear.
Nice mate! Lol
Rustyhooker4 years old.....
Twice in one night bro
RustyhookerVagisil though....still got me lmao!!!
Me too bro.......it's scary to think this guy wants to or is taking steroids
I so wanted to reply to the vagisil comment but I gave up internally after seeing the guy raised like 3 posts from the dead SMFH
Bro, personal experience - the guys are right about the oil. I don't buy from the #1 source but from one of the top 10 sources - they made a change a while back (in the brand they manufacture) to a very painless oil in many products to improve customer satisfaction. Very little Prop PIP in the current product.
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grab some gso and cut it. prop stings, but the body adapts after a while. i no longer have a problem with pip from prop. quads are also the most painful for me to pin prop. try the delts or glutes. get a high guage needle and take your time, go slowwwwwww injecting. workout that muscle group after you pin. hot shower after.
but in the end, i hate to say it, the brew is the main source of pip. find a better brewer lol
It all depends on the oil that it was used & dude Test P @ 250mgs is fucken way concentrated stuff. However there is a cream that i personally love to use when i have problems with PIP, it's called Vagisil. Shit works wonders for me.
Fill your bad tub with hot water, as hot as you can tolerate and lie there for a few mins. And whatever you do, do not rub/massage the affected area. Not trying to sound like im giving propaganda here but the #1 source here carries damn painless oils. Good luck.
bro are you serious about Vagisil working for pip?
No i was not serious. Come on man, Vagisil for PIP?!?!? That stuff is to rub on pussy lol
Hi I just started the third cycle of my life. I am 39 years old, my first cycle was when I was 19 my second was an 8 week test cyp cycle that I finished 8 weeks ago.
The last Thursday I started a test prop cycle. My first shot was Thursday in my right quad and second was Friday in my left quad. I have not taken any since. Both legs god pip, but my right was far worse. There is no discoloration but they are swollen. Hot baths have helped. At this point I dont know if I should continue or not. I switched to the prop because I read it doesn't retain as much water, but with the cyp there was never any pip at all. At this point im worried the gear isnt good, its geneza and verified. Or does the prop really just cause this much pip. I got it from the 4th ranked supplier Thank you
I've tried Geneza Prop before. I had minor PIP at 100mg/Day single injection. One thing that helped was to add .25 ml of another oil, in your case could be Test C which you already know you get no PIP from or If you injecting let's say 100mg use 2 injection sites try injecting 50mg in one glute & 50mg in the other glute. If nothing works then you just prone to PIP.
Wow thank you so much for relying so fast. So I shouldnt be worried that I got something really bad or contaminated?
Not from GENEZA. They pretty much "Pharma" grade. Specially since you got it from you know who! They actually make the stuff. I'm almost 100% sure is nothing to do with the oil, some people just more prone to PIP than others.
Hi Im sorry to bother you again. i just noticed that around the injection sites on both legs, there are softball sized red coloring. Is that also normal?
Propionate always swells my injection site for about 7-10 days. The swelling is normal for me. I take advil and use a hot pack. Every prop oil is different. The cleanest oil still swells me for about a week.
Does it cause it to get slightly red? Should I be concerned of an infection? Thank you for your input
Yea it always gets red and swollen. It feels like I have a pad or knot in the muscle. For me if the oil is from a good source it goes away in about a week. If the oil is harsher it takes up to 2 weeks to go away. Don't put any ice on it, it will only make it last longer.
Sorry for all the questions. But I choose Geneza because there were a lot of good reviews. There are also lot of bad. Do you have any opinion of it?
No
Thats a relief, Theres so much misinformation out there, that ive been making myself crazy. Thank you again and enjoy the rest of the day
HAHAHA!!!!!!
Lol, I was like no way....
Yeah unfortunately the oils came from the #1 source first oils I ever tried from him. It's all good not knocking the sources products just a shitty bad reaction because it tore my glute up too so I was 0-3 thought maybe it was a bad pin so I tried 2 more times nada. As for the cunt creams I'm good bro next you will be telling me to brush my teeth with it but even though I only attended a small college called F.U. I'm not dumbest asshole on the block.
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