+ 1 Hello all. New member need advice on bloodwork results
Hello to you all I’ve been reading these forums for months and want to thank you all that take the time to post and reply with such relevant and informed knowledge. I could use some feed back on my blood work. I’ll give my stats and brief background in order to help.
40m
212 14-15%bf
Lifting since 16
5 cycles majority just cyp
Diet is 3800 calories with a surplus being 500
Macros carbs 40% pro 40% fat 20%
Current goal is to reach 220 while maintaining bf%
Current cycle 500mg Test Ent split 2x Mon/Fri
Due to Covid was unable to get pre Cycle bloods. I did get a appointment with quest on the start of week 5. Weeks 1-3 were sust 350 @2ml split 4X a week. Used it to begin since I had one then transitioned to Enanth from beginning of week 4 to previously stated dosage of 500mg biweekly. Test was taken 24 hours before blood draw at 1 ml Inj of 250mg. Test was done at 8:30 am. From what I’ve found and read on this site my free and total test especially free seem high. I have read some 4K results on similar dosages but nothing similar of free test results as mine. Also yes Estro is over the moon which explains my lethargy and not feeling “the aggression and edge” I usually do. I feel like my libido is low although have no issues functioning sexually just don’t have the usual burning desire and insatiable drive I usually do when on. Acne is present not severe. I just feel like something g is off that’s why I didn’t bro science and went and did the smart thing with bloods. The results below definitely prove something is off ie. estrogen levels which I’m aware drive down LH which is low. Props to. And SHBG Are in the norm.
That being said please any guidance is greatly appreciated on how to get estrogen under control and maximize this cycle. I’m waiting to add NPP which I will not do now until I get this under control. I do have Arimidex and Proviron just didn’t want to take anything with out having labs to go off of.
Total test: 4427ng/dL
Free test: 1689ng/dL
LH : <.02 miu/ml
Estrodial ultra send: 178pg/ml
FSH :1.3miu /ml
Prolactin: 11.1ng/dL
SHBG: 18 nmol/L
AST: 21u/l
Alt: 23u/l
If I missed anything that can help please let me know. Thank you in advance.
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Thank you for replying Fuse. Yep definitely high on e2 which to your point =the low LH. Not going to bullshit never ran AI and first time getting bloods. After doing research on this forum it quickly became apparent the value of blood work so I didn’t hesitate. So never have taken adex or any AI just glad I did some reading here and absorbed seasoned members wisdom. I’m thinking and please anyone chime in .05 adex eod and proviron 25mg ED for 14 days then run blood again or should I wait 21 days to run bloods again. To be honest I’m not feeling awful or having major sides other then mild acne, some tiredness , now and then puffy nipples nothing to major and no not down playing any of the sides I know they are early and can progress. That being said If I can cut the e2 in half and verify through bloods and how I feel physically at that new number that would be a good starting point I think.
Let's start with the adex. .5 mg eod is a strong dose. Maybe too strong maybe not. I'd start .5 mg e3d for a couple weeks. Watch for signs of low e2. Dry lips and skin itchy and dry joints. Let's not be counterproductive here and crash your e2.
As for provi I'd leave it out until your next cycle. Adding two things at once will make it hard to figure out what worked and what didn't work. Or if you have a bad reaction what caused it? Next cycle start with it in the beginning and maybe you won't need an ai after you get bloods.
Now the important part. LH and FSH are not being produced since you are injecting test and are shut down. Those numbers are important for post cycle bloods to be sure you are recovered. Now let's hear your pct plan
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Pct plan is : one week after last pin for HCG 2 weeks After for Clom/Nolva
Weeks
1-2 HCG 500i/u EOD
2-4 Clomid 50mg ED
2-4 Nolva 20mg ED
5 Blood work.
That's no good. Do some more research fella
Also if you have puffy nipples on an ongoing basis, you are also, behind the scenes, gradually proliferating breast gland cells
Just read your write up Giardap on HCG. Thank you it was great and I see your point.
That’s what I’m here doing Giardap. Thank for taking time to reply what would you adjust about the PCT?
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/hcg-101.-why...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-its-hist...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-timing.....
A couple reads for you and then come back with another plan. G up top has some very informative posts on pct.
Thanks for the links Fuse so very appreciative.
I'll wait for the next plan. Not gonna leave you hanging. Just want you to do the research and put together a plan. Been here a bit. We don't spoon-feed.
After reading the links over and over I revised my PCT plan to...
3 weeks after last pin Bloods
Weeks 1-3 HCG 1000iu 3x a week
One week after last HCG
Weeks 4-7
4-5 Clomid 100 ED
4-5 Nolva. 40 ED
6-7 Clomid 50 ED
6-7 Nolva. 20 ED
Week 8 bloods.
Probably wait at least 2 weeks for the pct med to clear the system. But that's a solid plan. +2 for the research. Nice to see someone actually read nowadays lol.
I appreciate the help Fuse. I tend to respond and feel better to breaking my dosages down to more frequent administration ie took my test down to 400 weekly at .4ml 4 x a week. That being said you suggested the adex @.5 every 3 days. After reading Giardap s research on tailoring dosages since everyone is different I’m think my adex at .25 eod to keep levels stable since I do better at consistent levels I believe. I’ve read in medical trial articles that after .5 to 1 mg daily of adex male E2 levels drop up to 70%. I don’t want to crash hence the .25 eod. My question which I haven’t found anything on is after running the adex @. .25 eod for 2 weeks and get my bloods while I’m waiting to get results which now take up to 10 business days!! should I scale back my dose to say .25 2x a week ?? Just seems tricky having to wait so long for the lab results not knowing what’s happening in the waiting period.
Unless you start experiencing low e2 symptoms it's best to keep it stable until you get results back. Then adjust if needed. You don't want to be counterproductive by changing things without bloods to back it
Looks like high e2. Liver values are good. Lh and fsh are low which is normal due to being shut down. I'm not sure what dose of adex to start with. What's your experience with it?
Bump anyone??
Just saw something to clarify 24 hours prior to test 250mg of test enanth was pinned.