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What a 1000cal meal looks like

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Hey bros here’s a calorie packed meal to try if ur trying to put on some pounds. I was told to calculate my daily caloric needs to grow and it was surprisingly about 2000 more calories than I thought at 5500 during training days. I decided to count my macros on one of my favorite easy meals to see where I stand and how big of portions I need to shovel down.
Here’s an idea of an easy 1000cal meal. 3 packs flavored chicken sausage (12 links), 2 packs turkey bacon, 5 or so peppers, bunch of kale, 2 packs mushrooms, and season it up. Comes out to 4150cal total when I cook with olive oil. 208g protien, 132g, carbs, and 310g fat.
Before or after a workout I’ll cut the portion size and serve over rice or quinoa or something to add carbs. Otherwise I’ll eat it as is.
I’m new to forums in general so idk how to post pics to show the size of the damn thing. Feel free to customize. Any ideas how to lesson the amount of fats though?

giardap's picture

1kcals of tasty delicious inflammation and CV disease right there! But yeah.... tasty!

So...fats (unless we are talking about ketone precursors)... serve zero purpose around HIT (weights for e.g.). Dont get me started on the highly-processed health-food industry (processed to the extent of those you list, that is... pure poison). Best only to mix fats and carbies for general fueling purposes, in natural sources... like nuts for example because highly processed carbies (those bacins and saussies will be loaded with hidden refined sugar) and fat literally creates the perfect hormonal environment for the body to store fat. Fat+refined carb combos mightn't get you today or tomorrow... but the inflammation starts immediately and it will all snowball eventually... it always does.

I get my fat cals in primarily in the AM to program the body accordingly for the day ahead (look into that, you may find some interesting thoughts from George Lockhart).

Its very easy to take 100g of grassfed butter, an avacado, some eggs and blitz them for that 1kcals high energy start to the day but with very minimal processing, maximum uptake by the body given the mild ketogenic state the body will be in after a good night of sleep and the body programming for day ahead to use fat as fuel outside of HIT.

These are also the basic principals of carb cycling and cyclical bulking, when applied certain ways lead to fat loss/management on-cycle, inflammation reduction, better overall health via minimal (carcinogenic) processed foods, better energy levels and a greater sustainability of the bodybuilding food lifestyle.

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I really appreciate the insight. I’ve been getting most of my calories from fats and when I switched to adding more carbs and proteins over the last year to aid with training I couldn’t get over the portion sizes. My goal of this post was trying to post a picture of the heaping mound of food I had to eat to reach 1000cal even with most of the calories being from fats. By substituting in carbs instead of fats I’d essentially have to double my portion and I still can’t wrap my head around that.
I cook in grass fed butter and even put it in my coffee. It’s actually kinda good. The brain is 70% fat and 25% of that is cholesterol. But eating too much fat with carbs will lead to more than fat gain. It’ll oxidize the LDL molecule and that is one of the primary precursors to heart disease. When the fats in the brain become oxidized (definition of rancidity) it inhibits brain function and is a possible cause of Alzheimer’s.
But yes I totally agree processed food is tasty disease and when eating carbs fats must come from natural places. I wish I could find out how to make something like this where I had control of what went in the ingredients. I should have been more clear in my post I eat this from a caloric standpoint and couldn’t comprehend how to get the same amount of calories without all the fats. I’ve been looking all over the site for ideas for quick meals that are more geared toward training (pun not intended but I’ll leave it cuz it made me giggle) to replace my old quick meals

Makwa's picture

Sounds tasty but not very good for you.

shiva4's picture

I'm glad you are coming and looking for direction on diet. I'm willing to bet there was a misunderstand between you and the cardiologist. I could understand him suggesting increasing your unsaturated fat intake to improve hearth health. I cant believe that a cardiologist would advise someone to consume an ungodly amount of saturated fat, much less and insane amount of sodium. Both high sodium and high saturated fat are not going to do anything positive for your cardiovascular system and high saturated fat will reflect badly in your lipid panel.

It might be a good idea to make a new post with a detailed diet layout of what you normally consume and list your goals. Doing this will help us with making suggestions to not on get to your goals but also reduce stress on your body nutritionally. Also make sure you include any info about supplements and anabolics.

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He actually told me high saturated fat is the way to go. Just make sure u don’t eat carbs bcuz that will oxide the ldl. He explained there is no such thing as high cholesterol and ldl is merely a carrier of hdl. But high blood sugar and insulin levels from carbs oxidize the ldl and that is what the cause of disease is and y ldl gets a bad rep. Read The book Grain Brain it’s pretty interesting. But yes eating carbs with saturated fat will kill u no doubt. That’s y I’m seeking advise on how to eat enough and what to eat bcuz all I know is high fat low carb and I plateaued. Soon as I added carbs BP was up to high 150s/130s. I’ve got a lot to learn

Bearded_muscle's picture

I will humbly disagree with your doc. He’s basically saying an Atkins style diet is healthiest for longevity? Have you looked at the cardiovascular disease levels in people who run that long term? It isn’t good.
Edit: Wasn’t it just this past year that they officially classified bacon and processed deli meats like sausages as carcinogenic? This about this for yourself, don’t just take someone’s word for it.

Johnny Bravo's picture

I agree it’s the processed stuff that’s carcinogenic. Al the preservatives and flavorings and bs. I try to avoid them unless it comes down to missing meals or buying something processed. First step was no fast food. Then adding carbs and stopping the processed stuff unless I needed fast calorie rich meals. Next is to clean up more. Before I start counting macros how do I count food that someone made for me? Like I eat Indian food every week I swear there’s crack in the stuff or something. Or when I eat at someone’s house. How do I know what’s in the mystery sauce?

Makwa's picture

Once you have some experience under your belt weighing out and measuring portions you can get pretty good at guestimating. Stay away from the mystery sauce though.

Bearded_muscle's picture

Be careful with the Indian food brother. Those curries and sauces can hide a lot of fat if you don’t make it yourself. On the plus side the spices can bring a ton of flavor if you make it at home and it can be extremely clean. If you’re eating out stick with tandoori. Dry chicken never steers you wrong. Even the rice is usually full of oil so watch that as well.
As for your other question. The short answer? Don’t eat at other peoples houses lol. Bring your own food. Or let them know you’re dieting so they can prepare accordingly. But if they’re having you over for wings, pizza, and Monday night football with a couple brewskies that just won’t work for this lifestyle bro. Believe me I’ve tried lol.

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I cook my own when I can and usually use Indian spices on everything I cook. But when time is tight and it’s meal time I’m on the phone for carry out before I even realize it lol. I live in a Spanish house so they cook and put food on the plate so it’s hard not to eat it specially cuz I’m already spending 200 on groceries a week for what I cook myself. But no there is no drinking or tv at all for me. PT, train, work, cook, sleep, repeat. Just need to get better at the cooking part

Bearded_muscle's picture

Ditch the bacon and sausage in favor of some extra lean ground beef or turkey. Or both. You could even use fish or shrimp. Sausages and bacon should not be a staple in your diet, more of a cheat meal.

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I usually split the meal in 4 and then eat 1 1000cal serving a day. And yes this is my cheat meal to get extra calories. The rest of my day I don’t consume much fat mostly carbs and protein. I was told to ease into eating carbs from a paleo diet bcuz I blow up like a blimp when I just go at at. Any ideas how to get my calories while I ease into eating more carbs?

Dr.BroScience's picture

That sounds awful.

You are eating garbage protein sources.

Chicken sausage and turkey bacon are severly processed high fat sodium plenty preservative rich garbage

Ozninjaguy's picture

Thanks for saying that...was going to post something similar.

mrbones's picture

Serious ground beef is bad enough I almost threw up in my mouth reading this. #deadat50

Sam I Am's picture

True

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stairmaster's picture

I'd split this meal into two.

wanted's picture

Id split it with the dog. But he is probably not gona want his share either

Sam I Am's picture

Lol

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shiva4's picture

Thats an insane amount of dietary fat and sodium..... I'd be careful eating that very often. Youll gain more fluff than you want and its going to add some very signoficant stress to your cardiovascular system.

Johnny Bravo's picture

It was actually my cardiologist that advocated high fat low carb for heart health. I asked a guy at the gym for tip and the first thing he asked is what I eat and I told him paleo. He laughed and said I gotta eat carbs to grow. I’m just looking at this heaping mound of food knowing it’s all fat and can’t imagine doubling the amount to replace all the fats with carbs. Kinda stuck here that’s why I’m posting to get ideas

Sam I Am's picture

X2 not to mention that’s way to much protein for one meal.

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