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TDEE Calculator Maximim Muscular Potential

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I was just on this site the other day and noticed at the bottom maximum muscular potential and was wondering how accurate everyone thinks the estimate is. For me it’s 166 @ 5% BF, 174 @10% BF, or 183 @ 15% BF. I know when I was 18 I was about 165 and 5% and recently was 189 at below 15%. Now I’m 180 and 11% so I’ve surpassed my estimated maximum.

I’ve heard a general rule is to pass the 200 pound mark before even considering cycling which means the calculators estimate would be pretty off. I’m curious to see how far off or accurate everyone’s genetic max is compared to when the need to cycle came up to grow.

johnmarshall12's picture

It was interesting, but thought it inaccurate for me.

Makwa's picture

I would consider those numbers to be easily obtainable. One should be able to surpass those estimates by using proper nutrient timing, bulking protocols and progressive overload training. That calculator estimates my maximum to be 144 lbs at 5% BF which is pretty close to what I was in the all natty pics I have posted here. I didn't know a damn thing about dieting back then and was able to achieve that. Thought I was stuck there so I really studied up on diet and training and then I was able to surpass that by another 10lbs or so. 10 lbs of pure muscle is quite a bit. Goes to show how big of a role diet plays here.

Maximum muscular potential is an interesting concept to shoot for a bare minimum but you should be able to exceed that when you pay attention to the details of training and diet. If you are just winging it then you may end up stuck around those numbers and shouldn't be using AAS anyway if just winging it.

You really have to consider ones height in the grand scheme of things. 200lbs lean at 5'5" is probably unrealistic for most but if you are 6' tall you shouldn't even be sniffing steroids until you are quite a bit over 200lbs.

Johnny Bravo's picture

I don’t think anyone should be “sniffing steroids” no matter what lol. I was just curious how off the calculator was for other members because it seems about 20 lbs off for my max. I think the calculator may apply for the average person but with proper diet and training I think that’s the main thing that will make the estimate off. Also good point below that people with genetically larger muscle bellies will surpass that estimate easier than someone with short bellies.

Sam I Am's picture

Longer muscles with shorter tendons have more growth potential. Artur Jones proved that theory years ago. A calculator can't take that into account. Gear can take you past your limit as well. Calculators are as useless as the BMI index...

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Johnny Bravo's picture

I wasn’t necessarily asking if it’s right to cycle now because as much as I’d like to jump into it I know I have more in me before I make that step. I need more time to heal from injuries and get more practice with diet while bulk up. I was almost 190 and was still gaining steady when I got hurt so I’m pretty confident I can hit 200. That’s what got me thinking about the estimate on the calculator. I could probably hit 200 at around 12% and my estimate was 183 and 15% which is pretty off. That’s where the curiosity came in about whether the number was pretty off for everyone else as well.