How old are you, your AS experience and what is your goal? You said it yourself these are two completely different compounds which will give you different results. Personally I always go for slow steady gains which are 90%+ keepable. It is easy to get massive very quick .....with your blood pressure going through the roof, d water retension and ugly bloated muscles.... on high dose of D-bol and Test (with some Deca thrown onto the mix). My personal favorite stock is T-bol, NPP and Test. Incredible strength gains and respectable lean weight gains. So it's up to you brother.

Anyone got advice if better to take turinabolos 10mg beginning or near 8 week peak of cycle

Just to correct the banned OP he stated "tbol's major difference is less androgenic activity (near zero) so it means u'll not gonno be a water tank ". I believe he meant estrogenic. Highly androgenic compounds dont generally hold water for example: halo, tren, winstrol, are androgenic compounds. Dbol is so estrogenic due to it converting to methyl estradiol which is an extremely potent form of estrogen. Tbol cant structurally convert to estrogen which is why its dry

Tbol for me. Ran it a few weeks backs for the first time and enjoyed it much more than dbol.....yeah I didn't put on a bunch of size from it but I also had no sides, great pumps and felt tighter and more dense if that makes any sense

1 helps increase muscle fibre size. The other does not. If that matters to you, find out which is which and choose accordingly.

When we use the word “gains,” we mean muscle… right? We’re not naive enough to think water retention counts as gainzzz

Dbol is cheap and guaranteed gains. I can make 5 pounds of keepable gains on a 4 week run of dbol. Like you said though if you’re sensitive to estrogenic sides or gyno prone, you can still make some great gains out of tbol given your diet is on point.

Tbol is a cheaply produced steroid that was popular a while back because WADA didn’t have the technology to test for it properly. Remember when they retroactively found over 200 Olympic athletes who tested positive for tbol after new methods of testing became available? Too late to do anything by then, of course. It wasn’t popular because it’s a great steroid, though. If Olympic athletes could get away with Anavar as easily as they could tbol, we all know which they would be using. That’s not even a question.

Anavar is better. Dbol is better. Anadrol is better. Imo.

In my opinion tbol gives about 30-40% of the gains dbol does. But like you said, you’ll lose 60-70% of it after you stop the dbol. So as far as keepable gains which is better?

In that aspect they end up becoming the same thing in my opinion. The only difference I noticed is tbol being double the price or higher. So like every type of gear out there available to us, it’s all personal preference.

That is something you should know. Both orals can give you lean mass and both give you strength and size IF YOUR DIET IS ON POINT.

tbol anytime

When your lean dbol makes you look full and ripped

Anadrol