posted Sun, 11/19/2017 - 14:15
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Thank you to all who gave advice.
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Thank you to everyone who gave advice. I take all the information and see how it could change my overall health. Always a few haters but for the most part I received good advice.
Thank you,
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You clearly aren't afraid to lift hard. The kicker is, you don't grow unless you sleep. Make sure you're getting ample rest to recover. If your body can't repair, what's the point of AAS & lifting all the time? Sleep is paramount. Without it, life sucks, not just lifting.
If sleep isn't an issue, then I hope anyone else reading this can glean some wisdom from my suggestion. Sleep is king. Don't disrespect the king, or you won't grow. Keep us posted, OK! Rooting for you.
Lord, I can't get over 6 hours of sleep. I need more.....
Non-pharmaceutical ways to get more sleep are, use melatonin, 4 oz cherry juice right before bed, and valerian root (pills or tea). One of these, or a combination of them, can do wonders. (The "tart cherry juice" before bed has some basis in helping people rest, but for me, it's just kind of a "nighttime ritual" that tells my brain that it's sleepy time.
Other strategies would be, learn to meditate, do some evening yoga, etc.
If you're not afraid of cannabis, then an indica strain might help you sleep more.
Lastly, there are pharmecuitcals. They scare me. I've heard nightmare stories from friends who have used Ambien (sp?) so I simply assume I'll never trust the stuff. Good luck getting more sleep, cuz you know how dang important it is!
Yeah, I gotta try something.
+1 on the melatonin. I use it if I lay in bed longer than 30 minutes without falling asleep.
X2 on meditation... and guided meditation will shut the most wide-open eyes!
My personal favourite guided sleep meditation for sleep is by a chap called Glenn Harrold
Cheap as chips for an mp3
https://www.glennharrold.com
Ill check that out.
Test levels at 1600 = cycle, estro admitedly too low... gained fat... lost muscle... tricky dicky not working....
Here is a suggestion. Stop doing what you are doing because you are doing it all wrong. Whether you like it or not fat is a problem or rather a symptom... of both your eating habits, approach to bodybuilding/strength nutrition (i know what i am doing ill cut later!!!), and your CURRENT metabolism
Fyi; test is 1 part of maybe 10 or 12 factors that influence libido and erectile function.
You have more problems thank you think matey, and you yourself seem to be the biggest one, respectfully
giardap,
Maybe reading what I posted as a question before making suggestions would be helpful. The fact is you’re a DICK!
My nutrition plan designed for me based on my BMI, and the fact that the individual who designed my nutrition plan is an IFBB pro and trains individuals who become IFBB pros. So if you would have read my question asking for advice you could have saved yourself a lot of time. My body fat is $$$.
My dick works great and I have no issues with desire or getting for ass than a toilet seat.
My testosterone level is exactly where it should be for someone cycling or using test. My estrogen level is low, meaning it’s not out of line which can happen in a male if he has an elevated text level.
All off my labs came back right where they should be. Not one issues.
I had several people give constructive criticism & advice that I didn’t realize I had stopped doing.
With the help of several individuals pointing out where I could be going wrong it clicked. Made me think back as to what I was doing a year ago, two, three years ago. For some reason I stopped doing what works. I would even say I got lazy! (My fault).
I asked for advice or opinions on what might be the cause of my not growing at the rate or even slipping from where I was. Received some great advice as well as opinions as to why I was experiencing this plateau.
If you don’t want to read the request for advice maybe you should shut the fuck DICK!
My taking advice from a few individuals who took the time to read what I wrote, the last two days in the gym have been much better. Monday’s workout, I’m feeling it today! I’m sure my lift today I’ll feel tomorrow.
It’s actually possible to give positive advice or an opinion that might actually help the person asking the question. Thank you for being a DICK!!!!
Can you post up your nutrition plan?
You are right, I am a dick, a big hard angry dick... but - to you for meaning it a different way
You cannot see the wood from the trees and respond angrily when someone says; matey you are doing it wrong. Thats a little silly.
Allow me to quote......you
Pee pee problems:
You're doing it all wrong...
Hormone management issues:
Low estrogen... libido problems.... 1+1=..... em um ehhhh.....maybe.... maybe doing it wrong
Expert diet knowledge:
But its ok because its expected, of course. No wait probably doing it wrong
But it is GAINZ o'clock:
Wait... yoyo?... maybe doing it wrong?
Dude... as i said, youre doing a lot wrong. You're yoyo'ing, lose size despite super duper ifbb diet (really?!. ... so what, Ive got ifbb diet and training plans too... and mine uses cyclical bulking which helps keep fat below what is 'expectable' - trust me i need to) and need to start from scratch after you sort your bigger problems.... which are likely all related. For example; wherever your estro sits right now, you admit is low... it could be that its simply too low to remain properly anabolic, but to figure that out you need to really look at everything with a critical eye. Its hardest to dobthat when you have a whiney attitude about you.
You can take that whatever way you like, but based on what you yourself have typed, there are several interconnected issues. I have suggested you look at everything, not just bits of this and that. Personally id start with bloods and i dont mean test levels and i also dont mean looking at where results sit within ranges.
Have fun!
Hello Sir,
First if all want to say well done for sharing your issue with us and not being shy. Now with all the respect to the users suggesting changing training program and routine, considering you are an enhanced athlete and administrating hormonal substances, I would recommend to do the blood work and check your female hormone levels again - Estradiol and Prolactin levels. If any of these are above the reference range due to aromatization process, that could easily cause the problems that you have described above. You also mentioned that your estrogen levels were lower that they suppose to be. So just to clarify, you will experience similar problems if your female hormone levels are below reference range. That could potentially happen if aromatase inhibitors or prolactin agonists were used in excess dosage.
As @Rustyhooker said there could be many factors causing these problems however blood work would be a great starting point to get the problem identified and dealt with. Hope this helps Sir.
Regards
Change your routine. Eat every two hours.
RustyhookerTestosterone levels are about 1,640
So you been on a cycle how many years? Need full bloods posted. Cant give 500 guesses here
I saw that and ASSumed he was on a light cycle. I should have followed up.
Strength and conditioning coaches who train real athletes who depend on their performance to make millions of dollars will not agree with cutting training short, resting less between sets, or "shocking the body" with a new routine.
Here's what the science says. Real science, not bro. Training longer than 45 minutes is fine. Contrary to popular belief, cortisol build up after training has been correlated with more hypertrophy and strength gains, not less. And resting 30 seconds is not adequate for work sets. 3 minutes is the consensus most strength and conditioning coaches agree upon based on all the decades of exercise physiology knowledge we've accumulated through countless controlled studies. Rep range is irrelevant since it's based upon percentages of 1RM and RPE, so the workload will be roughly the same. Changing the program is not necessary… if the program is decent. Any good program written by a qualified coach will have parameters for deloads written into it. That's the way to blast through a plateu: a deload week, lifting about half of what you normally work with and with calories kept the same for recovery.
I'm just some nerd who pores over exercise science journals and strength and conditioning literature every day, but if what I'm saying is in line with what coaching geniuses like Louie Simmons, Dr Mike Israetel, or Martin Berkhan would say, it's because those are the kinds of guys this info comes from. Guys who live and breathe training programming.
I see,
Let me tell gymjunkie that the way we train for those trophies we have in powerlifting which is a strength sport is broscience.
I never said that. There's a myth that's been floating around forever that training longer than 45 minutes is counterproductive which simply isn't true. You never said any such thing, just that you'd recommend keeping it 45 or under. That's fine. Many athletes train that way, but it's not the only way. Changing programs can be done and can be done with great success. I didn't say it shouldn't be done, only that it's not necessarily a requirement. Resting for short periods of time can be a useful tool for building work capacity or plowing through assistance work, but I think you'll agree that when working with higher percentages and higher RPE that longer breaks than 30 seconds are necessary to keep the peripheral nervous system primed and allow us to recruit the most muscle fibers possible on each and every set. Yes? I said nothing controversial. Everything I wrote is 100% backed by science. That's not the only way to do it, but it's one way. I'm more open minded than you think. Exercise science is a huge field and there's always more to learn.
This isn't about my ego, your ego, or gymjunkie's ego (I respect you both profoundly, for the record), it's about putting forth the most sound, most research and meta-analysis backed information possible, and only that. Thanks for the post, as always.
Ok so with that in mind science also says that reps under 12 do not offer hypertrophy and limits muscle growth because the muscle is not under stress until after the reps go higher then 12.
In power sports you are attempting to hit hypertrophy fast and to do that you do the 4-5 reps at almost full power then resting briefly to cause the shock. I can train almost all day at 90% reps if I rested for more then a minute after each set. thats not the goal though, the goal is power not repetition. Shit he could even do 70% for 8 reps and still gain strength and some good size. If we honestly want to use science go take a look at my forum on muscle fibers amd the scientific methods used to see what muscle fiber types are dominant for each person. That in itself will also smash a plateau because you train how your muscles are instead of how everyone will tell you they are.
But we both know its just as hard to formulize training as it is the same for diets. BUT it has to be done, like being on a cycle to bulk but only eating salads.
I'm going to say this as respectfully and as tactfully as I can, but that simply is not correct. The data says quite the opposite in fact, which is that muscles respond to adaptive stimulus through progression of total workload and volume regardless of rep range. I know it's what we've been told in the gym by the big guys and in the bodybuilding magazines and even by some strength athletes, and I believed it too for a while, but it turns out that the concept of higher rep ranges being better for hypertrophy is complete myth. I was shocked, too, believe me.
I'll reference this well-known study by Dr. Brad Schoenfeld so it's clear I'm not just making things up:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24714538/
This was a rigorous, controlled study undertaken by an exercise science Ph. D that proved beyond any doubt that performing 7 sets of triples produces the exact same hypertrophic gains as performing 3 sets of 10 when workload is equal. It's right there in black and white so you don't have to take my word for it. The muscles are under stress from the very first rep to the last rep, regardless of how many are performed. After all, what's lifting the weight? Certainly not your connective tissues. Saying the muscle isn't under stress until after the 12th rep is utterly nonsensical, even from a common sense standpoint. It is biologically impossible to perform manual work on a mass against the acceleration of gravity without putting your muscles under stress. It physically cannot be done, doubly so with the kind of weight that, say, a 5 rep max entails.
And you have one hell of a work capacity to be able to train at 90% with brief rests. I'm not at that point yet, admittedly. Very glad to have this discourse with you.
WelshNmad, IrishMack, & Gymjunkie01.... You couldn't be more right. It was right in front of me. I've definitely hit a plateau. Thank you for answering my question without busting my balls. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.....
New workout starts tomorrow. More max weight reps, mixed in with drop sets and new movements.
Just remember to challenge your muscles and they will grow and get stronger, just be careful because the increase in weight will take a toll on your tendons.
Change your routine maybe add another rest day
Thats called a plateau and no amount of aas or food will help. You need to switch up your training concentrate on shocking your nervous system, if you are lifting for strength make sure you are doing only 3-5 reps at 85-90% of your 1RM.
Your body has grown accustom to what you are doing and its not being challenged anymore. Challenge yourself by doing other exercises. When doing strength training you should be in and out of the gym in 45 minutes or less. You should only be resting about 30 seconds between sets and watching the clock. That should be enough to put you back in the game.
Boom exactly
Double post.
Edit your face from your profile picture. That way the dea doesn't know for sure it's you