65 and cycle
Hi all. Have taken a full year off trt and cycles. Got labs done a month ago and all looks fine. Lh and fst in middle range and test tot 300 and free 17 per their lab scale
Began feeling horrible about 4 months ago. Tired, mental fog, 35 lbs weight gain and could not Ma...
ke myself go togym. Many aches and pains
Contacted MD and he wanted to try 100 mg cyp a week but had to drive an hour for injections so he would get his office visits fee...dont blame him but doing it myself (i dont rec to anyone)...been rn for 38 years.
Goingtogopick up the pharm test he called in but use it myself
4 weeks ago got Test E 400 on eroids and been using 100 mg per week x 2 for total of 200 a week. But sure miss cycling...tho some would say trt on own IS cycling i guess
Will get labs again in week and seewhere i am
Energy back (well...and provigil prn), libido good for firsttime in year and working full time is much easier. Awaken refreshed and in formulative stages of a new business. Unable to do any of that 4 weeks ago
Be 66 in december. Good health...no meds.
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Hi Randy, You have 12 years on me, but I as well am going to add 2IU of HGH to my testosterone regiment. My biggest issues have been joint health and insomnia. I am adding the HGH to aid in sleep.
I have been on TRT for 9 years and over the last 10 months began blasting higher test doses, and then pulling back to cruise. The blasts were 500-1G and the cruise 200-300 mg weekly.
I began adding Deca to my regiment 2.5 months ago and it has helped tremendously with joint issues, and the higher dose test has definitely helped with the workouts.
It looks like to me your biggest issues are elevated E2 and high hematocrit. I donate blood every 3 months and it keeps my Hematocrit in the 46-48 range. Hematocrit of 54 can make you feel like crap.
I take arimidex with the test blasts at .5-1mg EOD. Anything under 500 mg test and my E2 always tests normal, so it is not needed.
Are you sure your aromosin is legit? When I first went to 1g test weekly, I began to get gyno symptoms(was prone to it when I competed in BB in my 20's). I was using a research liquid arimidex, and it did nothing to alleviate the symptoms. When I switched to Pharma arimidex the symptoms disappeared in a few days.
Good luck brother and keep fighting the fight. We are all different, but there is definitely better ageing through chemistry.
hey man. Have you started hgh yet?
I wonder about the aromosin and will try other I think. Hey let me know how the HGH works.....
Was running Test C (500 per week) and Proviron 50mg/dly .
I dropped to Test C 150 per week, Aromosin 25 mg QOD until E down (taken 5 doses of 25 mg over last 10 days. Been feeling lousy with no libido and think E is still high. How freaking long does it take to get E back to normal?
After 6 months of Test C at least 500 per week. Lab test was on 01/17/2018....next lab Monday, 01/29/18
At work, so just putting in what struck me:
Test: 1500>.
Estradiol: 108.8. Range is 7.6-42.6. So I am way over
LH: .2 This is low range is 1.7-8.6
FSH: .2 also low 1.5 - 12.3 is range
BUN: 12 ok range
Monocytes .9 range is .1-1.0
Creatinine 1.30 high
RBC 5.88 high
hgb 17.6 high
Crit; 53.8 high
Tried to give a unit of blood this month, but bad vein and only took 300cc before quit. Will repeat in Feb.
Been a critical care RN for over 38 years. Been blasting, etc. for 6 years with one HORRIBLE year off....gained 40 lbs, slept all day.
I am going to try this at my age of 66......low dose Test (150 per week) and 2ius daily of Godtropin., I think at my age, the HGH is probably as important as the Test.
At end of a year off everything, my testosterone levels were 200 and I felt like shit.
What do you guys think of that? Test and hgh.....anyone near my age doing that?
basskiller89You're an inspiration brother
You are too kind. Bloods this week. Not bloated but but not much libido. However I feel great with lots of energy and positive outlook. Weaning down to 150mg test c 2x week then lower. Going for 150 a week. I started doing 600 a week. Blew up like a wet tire
Glad to hear your progress. Keep up the solid work.
Let us know how your bloods turn out. Also, how’s your blood pressure been on this cycle?
Ty man. I will post bloods in few days getting done today. BP was trending high and gave a unit of blood and no prob then. Will watch. Doing 1-2 miles of cardio a day and lifting heavy shit 3 days a week. Feel good
Just wanted to say you look awesome to be almost 66 bud.
Ty brother
Pvec629I think it is awesome that your natural levels are that at 65! Good luck brother just keep the bloodwork done just in case.
Be awesome if 500 average
Why would you think it is awesome, considering how un-awesome he was feeling?
Pvec629I never said the way he felt was awesome I said his numbers at that age. U keep assuming crap.
I didnt say you said the way he felt wss awesome
Clearly you are a moron
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Pvec629I got the shovel for you.
Then get digging!
Lol. Ty. Feel supremely better now. Actually forgot how damn bad it was. Got up at 5am today and went to work happy and feeling sharp. New lab showed E at 40s instead of 60 and 80s as last two. Crit and BP going to above normal so gave unit of blood yest. Pleased to see diastolic down 10-20 points near 65-70. Perfect. Ty Eroids
Good for you fella. Make sure to get a doc close by that can help with the ongoing monitoring. Invest some time in finding the right person who can read across the bloods to connect the dots and beyond the ranges to find your own 'new normal' as things settle
Your doc would likely not have you on 200 initially at least that is... im not advising either way... but talk to your next doc about the doae and dont be afraid to lowrr it a smidge, if it ends up being too high.
It is important to get the right advice on your progression. Everyone meeds a boss!!!
Amen brother. Keeping close eye on it. I appreciate the encouragement. I am looking for an objective MD/NP who is knowledgeable.
Good luck with self-trt. I had worse values at the age of 25 so I understand why trt is so great. Hope.you.don't aromatize too much on 200 mg a week!
Ty bro. Had to cheat some. Doing 600 test E a week and arimidex and proviron. Feel great lifting heavy and dropping fat tho weight is up 20lbs. Ty.
Thank you for sharing your story so honestly. I hope this helps other men make informed and intelligent decisions regarding their own health. You've been an RN for a long time. You've seen dumb shit. Be smart, be safe, and LIVE life, don't just endure it. Cheers Randy52! -ZeusM
TY Brother! Same back to you sir
Glad you feel better, there is nothing worse than being in a depressed funk that you cannot drag yourself out of. Thats awesome to be in good heath at 66 (almost). I think thats a goal most of us can stive towards.
thanks Jayz. Funny. Was 35 yesterday. Embarassing even posting on here at my age. And my "age" happened while i was preoccupied. Lol
I hear you brother. How's your plan going? Did you cycle back to trt at some point, or are you planning to? Are you taking an ai with that dose? Did you get any bloodwork recently?
Hey man. Wanted to wait til I got bloods before responding
Going good. Still at 500-600 test e a week and arimidex at .25 mg qod and some proviron at 25-50mg
The oral arimidex and proviron (liquid) are not as great as pill form ive had. And get nauseated. Prob go back to pill form and try aromasin.
E was 60 and 80 first 2 months on cycle so E is better.
Have energy most days and thinking much clearer. Libido up of course but wife not on hrt (was....whoa...lol) and im not THAT resentful. Ha
Wife is 61. Im 65 and we are soon taking RN travel assignments full time in Colorado. Many of my peers can do nothing. But go to 5 md appts a week. Im fortunate and good genetics...no meds.
Am seeing hard muscles and the 40 lbs of fat I acquired the year of not taking test is leaving. Only working out 1-2 times per week and treadmilling 15 min a day.
Drink 1-2 protein shakes a day and for some reason on test i canget by on 1000 cal a day and not be hungry. Works for me as im not in training for anything but staying in full time workforce.
After I lose a bit more Ill post an "old man" pic