traingear's picture
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Restart Cycle?

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I posted a few days ago about PCT and am thinking about restarting my 1st cycle after getting my AI and PCT in proper order...I have only completed one week, 3 pins, of an 8 week Test Prop cycle at 400mg a week.

I had only prepped for PCT using Clomid and after getting proper schooling about good AI (Arimidex) and adding Nova, I am thinking about stopping, letting all of the proper support arrive and beginning again in a month or so.

My main concern is proper AI support, was just using Estrodex, non pharma supp, but after the schooling, I want to use unquestioned proper support. Should I continue forth and start Arimidex when it arrives, or take a break, and start anew?

38 y/o, 5'10", 175#, 10% BF have trained 3-5x a week for 20 years and am in great health.

Thanks and I appreciate the knowledge and experience of the community.

WelshNmad's picture

always have an AI on hand. get that sorted asap.

1st cycle should be long ester test only.

It's your call to keep going or drop it.

get bloods if you're staying on and dose your AI accordingly

traingear's picture

Thanks
I chose the Prop cause it sounded like it was easier to manage side effects. The frequency of pins isn't exciting. Why do you recommend a long ester?

chunkypbnj's picture

And prop is known for PIP. For some it hurts a lot.

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WelshNmad's picture

less injections

TheLeftHand's picture

It's probably just going to be a matter of opinion here. My opinion, and I'm not trying to be mean, is that you should have had a better idea of what it takes to run a safe and proper cycle before you started. Gear is not something you want to play around with and learn as you go. I don't think stopping is going to hurt at this point in on only 3 pins of test prop. It will be out of your system real quick. If you're doing every other day you should be on day 5 right? Hope you know that you have to pin at least every other day on prop with everyday pins being the preferred method. I don't know how fast you think you can get an a.i. (which should be pharma grade along with your nolva and clomid) but things can happen with shipping, and I wouldn't want to catch any estrogen related sides without an a.i. on hand.

traingear's picture

Thanks, I thought I had all I needed and knew but... Anyway, yes every other day and yes day 5.

helloBrooklyn's picture

How do you know for sure you need an AI? Hint: there are two answers I'll accept

TheLeftHand's picture

I know the answers you are looking for, but it's like a gun. I rather have one and not need it, then need it and not have it.

helloBrooklyn's picture

Do you? It was kind of a trick question. The two answers to that question are:

  1. "Bloods"

  2. "I don't"

In other words, there's really only the one answer. I'm not saying don't have it on hand.

traingear's picture

So yeah #2
Some say it's necessary and some say it's not and those seem to be of the opinion no PCT is needed either.

helloBrooklyn's picture

Are you sure the people who don't do PCT aren't cruising? I've never seen anyone recommend no PCT to someone who isn't cruising or on HRT. Ever.

traingear's picture

Good question, but found on some older (2014) posts on other forums "If you do PCT, which I never do..."

TheLeftHand's picture

What do you mean you never do? How many cycles have you done? Have you ever gotten blood work to know your baseline, or what you've gone back to after using gear? I don't think you find a single person on here who doesn't recommend pct or feels there is no reason for it. I think it's the most important part of a cycle and it's why most guys will only use pharma grade even though they are willing to run UGL gear. Like I said man. you need a little more research if you care about your physical and sexual and possibly even mental health.

helloBrooklyn's picture

To be fair, he's repeating things he's seen on forums. I blame whatever idiots were saying running cycles sans PCT is okay more than I blame the OP.

TheLeftHand's picture

Oh, that's the title of the forum post? LOL I thought he was saying he never does. My mistake. Anyway, now he knows the importance.

TheLeftHand's picture

Yes, definitely need bloods to tell and I don't know would be a good and most accurate answer in his case too( if he's showing no signs). But if he grows a set of tits, that's probably a good indication as well lol, +1 for your creative way of putting it. I like riddles ;)