1st Cycle, Basic, Advise for PCT
I am running my 1st cycle and have chosen Test Prop as my intro. 400mg a week for an 8 week cycle. I just finished my first week. I am a 5'10" 175# hard gainer, 38 y/o and have been training for my entire adult life. I am very responsive to what I put in my body, have good health and immune system.
Have done a fair bit of research and gotten all my ducks in a row, nutrition, supplements etc. Trying to keep it simple, manageable and from my understanding the side effects are minimal. I have already gotten 2 weeks worth of Clomid 50mg and chose to go that route from some general info on forums and info web.
I am happy with the cycle so far, feel good and nothing crazy happening, out of control etc. But I am thinking about the end phase and want to get some more real time advise if possible.
I know that we are all different but read about Clomid for PCT and am curious if that is a good choice amongst the experienced athletes on this site, if there are better routes, or if it is all a matter of person? I read a great post at the top here about nutrition, rest etc being the most important base and my plan is to keep everything in order on that front.
Anyone with experience using Clomid or other PCT and how they treated you?
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Thanks for all the feedback so far. I've an AI supp and additional support for PCT on the way, per grawruff and Coconut.
I was anxious to move along w/ it and nervous to get on a forum and ask for some more help. But I have no desire to go through what some dudes on other threads have burned/burning through.
Will post Cycle Log and bloods when all is said and done.
"2 weeks worth clomid 50mg" and you've done a fair amount of research I think not. First bro I'd never advise starting a cycle without 100% knowing wat ur running for hormones ancillaries and a proper pct. Also having everything on hand for that cycle before beginning it. You have clearly not done neither. You Should use the cycle log area before starting a cycle to get proper feedback and adjust it accordingly. I'm with grawruff the pct he laid out is basic and generally works great especially for a first cycle. Although I'd not recommend hcg like he did your very new to this world. Imo less compounds rn would be better to get a feel for each individual compound ur using. But I would consider an AI on cycle.
Awesome, thanks for the feedback. I see the Nolva 40/40/20/20 Clomid 100/100/50/50, popping up the more threads I dig into.
Have an AI supp.
Will get some Nolva and more Clomid in the house.
I was a bit more confident and anxious to go ahead than I thought.
It happens lol good luck tho if u have any questions at all feel free to PM me
If you want the simple easy answer the most often recommended PCT is 40mg / day nolva for two weeks, then 20mg / day for two weeks. Concurrent with that clomid should be ran 100/100/50/50. This is information to protect you from yourself. It seems like you went in half cocked here without knowing everything you needed to know. I hope you study better before you run another cycle for your sake, not for mine. It makes no difference to me, ultimately, if you screw up your HPTA.
You may want to read up on HCG blasts as well. This will stimulate FSH and LH and swell the boys back up to let them know they're about to go back to work. With the cycle you listed, it shouldn't be really needed. I will not run another cycle without it, though.
Please do some more reading. You have came to the right place for help, and what I stated above is just general rules of thumb, but may not be the right fit for you.
Did you use any AI on cycle? Arimidex? Aromasin?
Okay, thank you.
I have read a lot of 1st time cycles and some dudes are doing crazy stuff. I figure from what I have read and learned that simple was going to be good. I put in a lot of time researching and just felt like I needed to get going and had questions come up after I started...
I appreciate constructive feedback.
You care and you want to learn. That is a huge part of it. Props to you for wanting to keep it simple.
All we know is you are on your 1st cycle, no dosage, no length... There are plenty of topics about PCT, do some research on the forum. You are already into your cycle and talking about PCT, at this time you should have all on point. If in the profile pic it's you my advice is to change it up, roids, illegal compounds you know.
Roger that, I edited post with numbers, thank you.
What's your dosage? I think or better said my advice is use clomid and proviron. I use always just this 2 compounds for my pct's and never had any issues!
Awesome, thanks. I edited post with doses.
What works for you very well might not work for others. Let's get that right out of the way.
True! I said I use this compounds...don't know much about his cycle so... I'm out!
Agreed, and my hope with this post was to see if there are some general basics in addition to awesome nutrition, rest etc. That work really well for most people.
Proviron on PCT ? It should be suppressive, can you post after PCT blood work ?
Roger that, will do. Thanks
Blood works are always a good thing, however i was talking @stairmaster, i don't advice proviron in PCT. You're welcome, but in your stats BF% is missing, you don't have talked about AI usage, no PCT on point, things like this let me think that probably you are not ready to cycle, just my 0.02.
Gotcha.
I could have spent more time on these forums, but felt like I did a lot of research. This is my first post in a forum, so I am trying to look at other posts and make sure I get all of the pertinent info in my writing.
I appreciate constructive feedback and not feeling like a total dummy.
yes talk to me... I use it always during my pct. Its just my experience! Do you know his dosage??? Me not ... so give him a better advice . bye
His dosage of what ? I don't advice proviron on PCT 'cause it is showed to be suppressive, if it works well for you good for you, i'd like to see blood work after your PCT, i'm here to learn like most of us, nothing more and nothing less that. My only advice is to do lots of researches to learn as much as possible to maximize the gains and reduce the sides, have a nice day.
I had a elbow surgery and I'm down, excuse my mood ... have pain and all this shit. blood works are horrible, but just cause I have high inflammatory values!! hormone levels all good.
Yes maybe its suppressive but not for me, but here are a lot of guys with much more knowledge than me. My main quest was his dosage of test but I see he edited his posting, u understand?
+1 for accepting my mood and that you here to learn, ME TOO!!!
Don't worry bro, i know elbow pain can be a thumb in the ass. I thought you were talking about his test dosage, but better to ask. I'm interested to your PCT protocol, you have FR.
Ty