posted Fri, 10/09/2015 - 04:44
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After running just a regular cycle of test 500mg a week then test/mast cycle then test/eq cycle I was thinking about just doing another all test cycle with maybe a little higher dosage probably around 600-750 of cyp or enenthate just to keep it simple have any you guys done this before also I've haven't cycled in about six months and I think the gains would be great just keeping it simple and also cheap any opinions?
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IfbbmoeSimple is never a bad idea I just take test half the time now because I know how it makes me feel and I don't have to worry about much because I get blood work and test hasn't messed with anything that much. If you up the dose you may need arimidex or aromasin depending on how much you aromatize
good shit, one of my best cycles ever was test only with 10mgs of nolva everyday. felt clean, awesome, horny and just overall well being.
my latest cycle- brutal- test e, test c, deca, drol, tren, i tell you what, tren can go get fucked, im having one more pin then its gone for good, dont know why i bother with it.
my next cycle, will be test e with sust thats it, i actually cant wait too finish off all this bs too be honest.
test is king.
I totally agree I think just test alone feels so clean good gains and definitely keeps sides down and not to bad on restarting your natural test versus running various numbers of hormones along with it and having a major shutdown
i am curious after 3 cycles and being off for 6 months, why would you need to run 750mg a week. many of the old heads and vets around here would most likely say or agree, a lot is not always better. this applies even more so when youre young and more receptive to the effects of aas.
Ran a much higher mg of test in the past. With bad diet and sleep. Blew up like a blimp with all the glorious sides you could ask for. Countered them with more drugs and looked like a strong blimp! Felt like death outside of lifting. I run a mortal amount of test now and my lady can vouch for a world of difference it has made in my appearance. In all honesty being big was never at the forefront. I was 350lbs of sloppy strength in the past. It feels good to have my cheekbones back lol it really does boil down to discipline foodwise. More is only better if its pertaining to dollars
Anontest test test is always number one.... Hell all steroids are derived from good ole testosterone meaning they simply altered the hormone .... Yes test is always my favorite and the only bad side I get is acne and I can deal with that
You are exactly right! With proper protein intake, in my eyes, test is all you need to gain. If keeping it simple is a concern you have. I'm a fellow trt guy that has made the most quality gains off of no more than 500mgs a week of sustanon. I'll throw in eq(like I am currently) or a tiny bit of tren only because I'm pinning anyhow, but test, intense lifting, food(I know its redundant) and good sleep are the only keys one really does need for mass. Orals are magic for strength, test solidifies there use. But being you are a MONSTAR, I'm preaching to the choir...
AnonHahaha
There's nothing wrong with going back to a simple cycle mate. I'm running nothing more than 600mg of test per week at the moment and I'm gaining. Long story, but I don't want a pile of compounds in my system after a couple of health issues. That's a very low dose for me, bares no resemblance to the sort of cycle I'd typically run.
Sometimes I think we all get bogged down with a+b+c when really just a simple test run has me strong, training well and chasing anything female with a pulse.
Dude, test is the best. In my opinion test is all you really need. It is the actual hormone your body makes. your body doesn't make tren, or deca or eq. Test is good all around for everything at least in my case and you feel good unlike tren and some of the nors feel like shit. I try a lot of stuff just to give it a whirl but test in my opinion is the best especially offseason. Contest start throwing in some stuff to harden, but most can be done with orals. Can use tren if your into it. But I love test only. Although a little masteron or proviron in there is nice. Have a boner 24/7. Mix that with some Caber and watch the fuck out. Hopes this helps.
"Ouch"
With the caber you basically have like no rebound period after the deed to so the result is insane. The best cardio you will ever do. Marathon cardio and hit cardio all in one.
Its "the only" cardio i ever do....... lol... or ever did to be honest
AnonIt's the best cardio ever
Haha that's only useful if its gettin wet 24/7.
Well when you look like this, and are charming as hell.......yes 24/7, even when your sleeping....lol
shit, I'm working with a .25/2 window. Good thing it only takes me a couple minutes.
Funny how that vast stained glass window becomes a fkn peephole
No need to brag Pin. Makes my thirty seconds seem like a failure ;)
Shit alot can happen in 30 seconds! Like the NFL and NBA. A certain failure can become a huge victory hahaha
I'm counting the 45 seconds of going down on her. That counts right?
Theo and ofcourse Viking said it all! Kiss! Remember this...keep it simple stupid. Just a saying no personal intent. Grandads advice which I should have utilized in my earlier stages. Of course you can slam mass amounts of whichever compounds and grow..like a damn beanstalk. As soon as your supply runs dry you lose damn near all of it. Its a vicious cycle alot of us have endured. Its repetitive and not what one wants to hear but food honestly is the determining factor in this tangled web we weave. I enjoy the fact you have only dabbled and are humble with your situation. You run that 750 of cyp and eat whole foods containing protein...youre already light years ahead of the "I want it now" crowd. Your gains will stick to your ribs. Not water weight. Its actually refreshing there was no mention of HGH or tren in your upcoming cycle. Theres always room for improvement going the steady route you are choosing. Alot of guys including myself were left chasing the dragon and have had to manipulate a wrong path to a right path...kudos bro...hit the weights brutal...eat monstrous...inject sparingly
My dad always said easy does it haha but yes more gear for me right now I would only feel like it would hamper my future gains and I'm keeping it simple
I'm an advocate of low to moderate dosages and keeping things simple! Unless someone is a competitive pro bodybuilder, why complicate things with advanced high dosage stacks! I applaud your decision and think it's the proper thing to do on many levels! +2 for choosing wisely!
BOOM! I've been trying to push that on this board for years! You can make quality gains for YEARS on Test ONLY cycles before even considering a second compound. Only the glutton has to try EVERYTHING at the Buffet table...
Thank you kindly brother for the support! It really means a lot coming from you! I've always had a great respect for you because of the vast knowledge you have shared with the community! Also, for your service to the community as a moderator!
I think your a great guy!
You know Hllwd, my first cycle was 300mg weekly Test E and I didn't reach the so called standard 500mg. Until my fourth cycle. I don't see myself surpassing that dosage for quite a while!
Was 300mg enough for you to see significant gains?
There is one thing that has stood the test of time as far as making gains are concerned! And that is food! I don't care if anyone is utilizing high dose designer steroids or enhanced complex blends, if they are not in a calorie surplus adequately above maintinence, they will not make gains!
In response to your question, yes 300mg is enough to achieve admirable gains providing your diet and training are in check!
Have a look at his pictures, then check his age. How many guys of T's age do you see with a better physique? In fact, how many guys half his age have a better physique?
Brother Catalyst, I am honored, humbled and at a loss for words! Thank you, thank you ever so kindly!
Thanks and that's exactly what I come to realize is I'm not setting out to be a pro or even compete in any high stages of the game so I don't need any crazy amounts gear to try an elevate me to my goals
Dont skimp on the food bill bro.......... thats were the gains are, NOT in vial ....... not nit-pickin bro i just see Red flags when the word "cheap" shows its head in what should be your ultimate passion i.e Growth,,, i mean thats the reason we are all here right?
A typical 12wk cycle should be peanuts (cash wise) against a typical 12wk weight gain diet.
On a more positive note i respect your usage choice and you get a +3 for that...... wise choice
Hey thanks man I appreciate it but absolutely no skip on the food bill the bank account isn't the issue I just don't want to go on a major combo of gear yet I foresee that maybe in a distant future but right now I think I can very well still make the gains I want on a simple test cycle im not looking to be mr.O like some of these guys out here running crazy cycles thinking that the gear is what's going to get them there.
Nice to read sensible comments for a change brother..... i believe 100% you will do very well with your chosen protocol, nice easy to handle cycle,with the major focus on diet and rest,,, after some serious cell stimulation in the dungeon first of course lol.
Your sensible approach will promote longevity for many many years...... thats another positive karma hit +3
Thanks man no matter how much gear you run it won't supplement a good diet I have a few friends that run crazy cycles and eat like crap and look the same 12 weeks later with only 25lbs added to their lifts to show for it haha
I imagine everyone has run a test cycle. You've cycled only test. You're adding an extra 250mg. No rocket science here.
I was saying as far as running other cycles then just coming back to a basic test cycle I was seeing if anyone has done it and what their gains were
Just answering your question, yes a Test only cycle would produce gains and be cost effective as you said. There's nothing wrong with keeping it simple. You have to see what your goals are and be honest with yourself. If you're not competing then there's really no need for a multi stack run. I've ran a couple compounds together, and still one of my best cycles was 500mg test with 50mg Proviron. Great gains, hardly any sides. Easy recovery.
This is one of our members who has done VERY well with his sensible approach to all things regarding AAS.
Much respect brother... +3
I remember our Proviron conversations like it was yesterday ;)... dont think anyone has ever picked my brain that much over a single compound lol..... Glad you did though because i love it when you hit the results.
Good to see you back and helping out with the simple dose philosophy, I sure needed some help in my corner! Also welcome back, hope the break got you bushy tailed and wide eyed.
lol, for sure. I've definitely had my share of questions for you. My last cycle this summer was low dose Test E and Tren A. It had been years since I ran Tren, and I am light years ahead in my AAS knowledge then what I wad back then so I decided to give it another go. Although it was a successful cycle, between the ED pinning for 8 weeks, appetite suppression, and the psychological affects it caused, I still enjoyed Test and Provi better.
When I'm planning a cycle my idea's are continually changing. More times than not, I take stuff out of the cycle rather than add to. Like a said the person has to be true to themselves and not try to keep up with jones' as they say. I would much rather gain a solid 5 lbs on a Test cycle with proper nutrition than to blow up on some monster stack, feel like shit then lose most of it when the drugs are done. I still cycle once a year. Yea it's tempting to say fuck it and jump back on, but what reason would I have for that? If I were being honest I really have no reason to use steroids period, but that ship has sailed. Yea PCT sucks and being off sucks, but your body gets back to normal eventually. I honestly think if I were to cycle more often then I would fall into the trap of adding more and more. Once a year keeps me longing for it like a kid at Christmas, and believe me when you've been off for 6 months or more, don't think that a simple Test cycle won't get you gains, believe me IT WILL!
I'll still try new things, but 2 compounds, three at the most is all I'll do. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Yeah I'm not looking to blow up I want to just keep things simple and add an extra 12 pounds and try to keep about 7-8 after pct plus it's cost effective
Cycle history is three cycles posted? Is there any BW to confirm recovery of hpta, or are u TRT?
And time on equals time off plus PCT. Can u post length of time of last cycle and clarify ester of EQ used? Thank u sir.
Yeah I don't have them posted which I should but previous cycles go as such
Test e 500mg for 12 weeks pct followed up 14 days after last pin
TestE/mastE- testE at 500mg weeks 1-12 mastE 400mg weeks 1-10 pct after 14 days of last pin of test
TestE/boldU testE 750mg weeks 1-14 Eq weeks 1-12 pct after 14 days
Also ran nolva at 20mg ed while on cycle
Nolva does decrease IGF, so u risk tendonitis, especially with 20mg ed in cycle. Its counterproductive. Nolva really needs to be administered before bed time, too.
Pin Cushion stated it the best as above. And as long as your foods are perfect and macros/micros is dialed in to meet ur goal, then u should meet it. Utilize a pyramid lifting regimen and make sure its heavy.
Absolutely as you mentioned on my first test cycle while running nolva my joints did feel a little dusty but I always take fish oils and glucosamine to try to help with that. Would you recommend just 20mg eod then as far as helping with tendons and joints
I wouldnt use nolva at all bro on cycle. Its got some uses and thats to help increase FSH thru hpta feedback and block estrogen in breast...if ur prone to gynecomastia then u might look into letrozole...i wouldnt even chance using 10mg of nolva on cycle...
Thanks for the info it explains a lot as far as my joint situation went what would you say a .5mg dose of letro every three days sound about right on cycle
Research letro dosages and uses....then make a determination if u need it. Good to have on hand for PRN (as needed) situations...but not something u just add in..... becuz it may not be necessary...